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posted May 07, 2010 12:27 PM
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Ive learned ride height had alot to do with it. My ZX rides cooler now that the ride height was raised up from how i got it. The extra cooling probably comes from the larger gap between the nose cone and the front fender. So far so good.
How did you raise your bike?
Easy, slide the forks down. You can slide it like a whole inch or so or until the fork top is level with the upper triple clamp.
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posted May 07, 2010 12:33 PM
Interesting.
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posted May 07, 2010 12:35 PM
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Half the cars and trucks on the road have a cooler of some sort throgh the rad held on by special zip ties.They will last as long as your bike.Im off the stupd people thread here.speedgene do you ride that ugly piece of crap lol.Sorry man
Not too sure on that one unless you consider half the cars on the road have a cheap Hayden universal coolers. Also got to remember that the ZX14 radiator has a core density far greater then any ordinary car radiator and is quite delicate. The rows are alot closer together as well.
Zipties through a bike radiator won't hurt. These things are strong enough.
I've seen radiators that have been damaged bad in accidents or even on stunters bikes and they still live.
Most are half to 1 inch cores . They appear to have the same tube wall thickness as cars .
, this in time may eat through the core with time.
See key word is "May", may eat throught the core.
A better word would've been "Will" , will eat through the core.
Besides the zip ties will be on top of the cooling fins 1st and not the actual core itself. Think about it for a second... The radiator is a big sandwitch. Core ,fins,core,fins etc.
So with that said , the load from the zipties will be spread evenly .
My rad guard is ziptied to my rad and there's no fin core damage after 50k+ miles.
Look, if that was the right way to install it, it would of came that way from the factory. But like i said earlier no thanks for me, i'm not willing to take that chance. There are a few places ill use zip ties, holding a fan to a radiator isn't one of them. :P
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posted May 07, 2010 12:38 PM
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Yes, the upper clip ons aren't clamped to the fork tubes at all, you can drop the forks down just about a inch but leaving a slight lip for the clip ons to align. The only thing is you have to raise the rear too otherwise it slows the steering response a little from the suspension geometry changes.
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posted May 07, 2010 12:46 PM
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Half the cars and trucks on the road have a cooler of some sort throgh the rad held on by special zip ties.They will last as long as your bike.Im off the stupd people thread here.speedgene do you ride that ugly piece of crap lol.Sorry man
Not too sure on that one unless you consider half the cars on the road have a cheap Hayden universal coolers. Also got to remember that the ZX14 radiator has a core density far greater then any ordinary car radiator and is quite delicate. The rows are alot closer together as well.
Zipties through a bike radiator won't hurt. These things are strong enough.
I've seen radiators that have been damaged bad in accidents or even on stunters bikes and they still live.
Most are half to 1 inch cores . They appear to have the same tube wall thickness as cars .
, this in time may eat through the core with time.
See key word is "May", may eat throught the core.
A better word would've been "Will" , will eat through the core.
Besides the zip ties will be on top of the cooling fins 1st and not the actual core itself. Think about it for a second... The radiator is a big sandwitch. Core ,fins,core,fins etc.
So with that said , the load from the zipties will be spread evenly .
My rad guard is ziptied to my rad and there's no fin core damage after 50k+ miles.
Look, if that was the right way to install it, it would of came that way from the factory. But like i said earlier no thanks for me, i'm not willing to take that chance. There are a few places ill use zip ties, holding a fan to a radiator isn't one of them. :P
Fair enough... Some people like flies out , some like flies in.
The bike came that way from the factory and I didn't like it 
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posted May 07, 2010 12:51 PM
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Yes, the upper clip ons aren't clamped to the fork tubes at all, you can drop the forks down just about a inch but leaving a slight lip for the clip ons to align. The only thing is you have to raise the rear too otherwise it slows the steering response a little from the suspension geometry changes.
Now that's something I haven't heard of anyone doing before . Cool.
But you realize that's not the way to do it cause the factory didn't design it that way right?
Just messin' with ya lol!
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posted May 07, 2010 01:03 PM
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Yes, the upper clip ons aren't clamped to the fork tubes at all, you can drop the forks down just about a inch but leaving a slight lip for the clip ons to align. The only thing is you have to raise the rear too otherwise it slows the steering response a little from the suspension geometry changes.
Now that's something I haven't heard of anyone doing before . Cool.
But you realize that's not the way to do it cause the factory didn't design it that way right?
Just messin' with ya lol!
Yea but you have the raise the rear in relation to the front otherwise it will handle like shit.
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posted May 07, 2010 03:12 PM
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There are some carbon fiber 14 fenders for about 170 that look really nice.Im sure you can get the zx 10 in carbon.If you like the look of carbon.
Not $170 and not too ugly...
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posted May 07, 2010 03:16 PM
Are the zipp ties sawing through your radiator?
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posted May 07, 2010 03:32 PM
That zx 10 fender looks nice.
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posted May 07, 2010 06:34 PM
Nope the ties have been there for many thousands of miles.They sit on the fins so no damage can happen.They also have a rubber washer on both sides.I had that concern at first but after talking with my brother who is pro wrench said hes installed hundreds that way and never had a problem.
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posted May 07, 2010 08:03 PM
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Most of us have a heat problem in traffic thats why i think a second fan in answer.The zx 10 fender sipmly will not help that issue in TRAFFIC.
Most of DON"T have a problem ..
Agreed!!!
If I can sit in traffic in Phoenix in the summer (113+ deg. air temp) there is no over heating problem.
Just cause the thing shows 4 bars, doesn't mean it's overheating
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posted May 07, 2010 08:48 PM
if there is no problem then why the zx 10 fender?? why do people ask about the second fan?? whats the title of this thread?I guess there really is no heat problem and never was we simply cant read the heat gauge I guess thats the problem after all.I have read many times on this site about 14s puking out antifreeze but I guess it was all in there head?
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posted May 07, 2010 09:39 PM
Just like the 900 Ninja's back in the '80's that ran hot. Kawasali's fix was a 20 ohm resistor in the gauge circuit. After that, there was no more overheating. Yes, it was in their head.
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posted May 07, 2010 10:16 PM
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fix was a 20 ohm resistor in the gauge circuit....no more overheating.
Heat makes HP. Fan of a fan14, say they poured in some wet tear wetever, did not burp the system, hot radiator cap hands comes in all hot, he now blames the bike, the weather, the 20 ohm resistor is how stupid you gotta be to sit in the engine bay of a car, close the hood, call it a bike your balls are over.
Stupid ass inn 9 out of 10 will feel the same ball temp on their sack, you throw in a 20 amp fuse up their ass kind of stupid riders post toast teas temperature readings.
There you go, zipped another tie the knot on the pony tail blindfold did I did. And no, you feel your own balls you need a temp pee tear read. Touch mine, cost you a, doll her.
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posted May 07, 2010 10:44 PM
speedgene wanna be rappa.Dog I neva had da rad cap off da 14 bro so no prob here ya.Word up on that boy who want men to play wit his balls maybe you should you to the all stud site and be happy der??
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posted May 07, 2010 11:25 PM
Had a problem with coolant boiling out after shutting off after driving in traffic. Got a a airflow problem from a radiator guard. Used a manual switch and it takes care of it IF I turn it on when hitting city traffic.
Engine Ice is a waste of money. Prestone Low-tox is the same thing at half the price for twice the amount. Read the labels. Neither make that much difference but do run slightly cooler. Also removed the forman grills from the front fender which helped a small bit in traffic crawling.
Never had a problem with heat doing track days. 120 mph average airflow....,lol.
Find it interesting that many in hot states have no problem with heat. Noticed it for years now.
Meanwhile some of us arent so fortunate.
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posted May 08, 2010 12:11 PM
True I found the red line water wetter didnt work either.Dont wast you money on the water treatment.
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posted May 08, 2010 12:59 PM
Hey, fan of a fan14, Not even the homeeez understand me. Every time I can take that dildo and present it in said squid position, I'll cum up with something you keep thinking who the fuck the dickizz UP someone's ass. Symbolic, Poopayglandayou pay. I'm done paying my dues. Wet behind the ears, I have to hear about another ohm resistor comes to the rescue, the happy customer leaves with the same temp around his hair follicles?
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