JSmooth
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posted March 27, 2010 12:12 PM
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I know this has probably been asked before and since I am new to the Forum I was hoping to get at least 1 alibi. If I am wrong so be at however I have not seen where anyone has posted this " TAKING THE FLIES OUT OF 2009 ZX-14" I see that people have taken them out of the 2006-07 nothing for 08-10? I am trying to get the most out of my bike and was looking at different set-ups to get some ideas. Any advice would greatly be appreciated. Here is what I am looking at:
1) I need a high performance exhaust that won't compromise corners ( Brock SMEG/ Brock MEGAPHONE)
2) PCV Commander
3) BMC Air Filter
4) Thinking of Velocity Stacks but trying to get some more knowledge on them)
5) Changing out the tires
6) Looking into extensions rather then extended swing arm due to finances for now
Any other info would greatly be appreciated.
  
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dakota9498
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posted March 27, 2010 12:36 PM
Yeah you are probably going to beat up with posts about flies. Some people will say leave them no matter what, but especially in the 08 and up. I am a firm believer in pulling them, so I say go for it.
1) Any of the Brock's exhausts will be fine for cornering. For the best power and weight savings go with the CT if you can afford it. I had my CT meg out in the canyons before I stretched it and loved it You will probably hit the bodywork before you will the exhaust..
2 )PCV will be good and a you will have to have a PCIII or PCV if you go with an exhaust.
3) No one will argue with you about the BMC Filter either.
4) One of the guys with aftermarket stacks will have to chime in on this one.
5) Tires depend on what you are going to use it for.
6) If you are going to extend it I am not sure why you are concerned with cornering clearance, but I went with the All Things Chrome Extensions because they go out to 9 inches, these are really cheap too. But any of the extensions out there are nice, Spencer Cycles probably being the nicest.
Like I said I am sure many more will chime in on the subject, so absorb all the knowledge and experience that you can, and good luck.
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posted March 27, 2010 01:06 PM
Welcome to Drag racres 14 forum :-) Lot of Helpful members over here. I have purchaased a lot of my upgrades here. As the Real Racers go from fast to Faster :-)
you can purchase a lot of cool like new parts and save a lot of $$. Listen and look who
does what you are doing, street, track or tour ....little of All...... good bike.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted March 27, 2010 01:27 PM
Pull the flies for sure ! Get a PC , BMC filter , Brocks exhaust , Custom map and you'll be good for power 
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LeonidasZX14
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posted March 27, 2010 02:37 PM
You will be happy with Muzzys or Brocks exhuast both make a nice pipe. My 09 has no flies and runs great. I would spend money elsewhere before buying stacks if money is tight.
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JSmooth
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posted March 28, 2010 06:49 AM
Thanks for the insight. I was debating on whether or not I should pull the flies out or not. As far as the cornering part I am not to much worried about that so much being where I am they are few and near and I am not looking for any. I'm looking to street race and later after I get better hit the track. So any suggestions or comments would be helpful. This bike is a real screamer!!!!
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SixSixoh6
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posted March 28, 2010 07:30 AM
to my understanding the 08-09 does not need the flies pulled being as they open sooner and faster than the 06-07. a TRE mod on the 06-07 "supposedly" does the same thing as pulling them.
i have the factory pro street velocity stacks, im a firm believer of giving the airflow a smooth path into the engine. so to each as their own...i bought them.
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eklipse636
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posted March 28, 2010 10:04 AM
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Thanks for the insight. I was debating on whether or not I should pull the flies out or not. As far as the cornering part I am not to much worried about that so much being where I am they are few and near and I am not looking for any. I'm looking to street race and later after I get better hit the track. So any suggestions or comments would be helpful. This bike is a real screamer!!!!
first things first, street racing is not going to make you any better of a drag racer. You know all the safety reasons, but as for a "better" racer the surfaces are nothing alike. Launching on the two is nothing alike. Go ahead and go to the track and learn it there!
As for the flies, I have a 08 and I strongly suggest removing the flies!
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JSmooth
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posted March 28, 2010 12:13 PM
sixsixoh6 I will have to check into that. Thanks for the advice.
eklipse636 thanks as well, I know there is a difference in the two. However over here in KS it is hit or miss where I am located with the track and given my schedule. I have never been on a track but have always raced on the streets. I think I will take your advice for a safer and more productive atmosphere. Also what is your set up?
May be someone can answer my next question as I don't want to get into the Flies in/out again. Based off my research of Brock's systems how would you rate them. I have looked high and low for the DYNO charts to compare them but there is nothing for 2008-2010 that shows any numbers. If someone could publish a link to this thread I'd appreciate it as well.
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posted March 28, 2010 12:16 PM
You will NOT be dissapointed with any of brocks systems.
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posted March 28, 2010 12:40 PM
I've done a little research for you already.
read this
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?TID=48980&FID=27
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posted March 28, 2010 01:47 PM
I would go with the Brock's exhaust the BMC filter and whatever pwr cmdr. As for the stacks your asking the same questions I did. I bought the Pro Velocity street stacks and I'm impressed. You have an 06 like me and I would get the aluminum air box cover as well. If u ride on the street primarily the mid range stacks are great cause it will be power you can feel. They are a bit pricey though but I feel money well spent. Brocks street map seemed 2 run great with the stacks. Get the advancer too set at 4 degrees. It will be very responsive.
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SixSixoh6
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posted March 28, 2010 02:01 PM
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I would go with the Brock's exhaust the BMC filter and whatever pwr cmdr. As for the stacks your asking the same questions I did. I bought the Pro Velocity street stacks and I'm impressed. You have an 06 like me and I would get the aluminum air box cover as well. If u ride on the street primarily the mid range stacks are great cause it will be power you can feel. They are a bit pricey though but I feel money well spent. Brocks street map seemed 2 run great with the stacks. Get the advancer too set at 4 degrees. It will be very responsive.
+1 yup, ill agree
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JSmooth
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posted March 29, 2010 07:49 AM
bad ass 14: I have a 2009 ZX-14 SE from what I am hearing if I have not ridden on a track yet it is best to learn the basics first and learn the bike before adding any engine mods. I am not sure if the 2009 pulls harder then the 06 since I haven't ridden an 06. However the guys I ride with says that my 09 has more low /mid range then theirs. Most of the guys here have the Muzzy's and one has a Yoshimura R-77 all full exhaust. I am looking to add a different and more powerful performance exhaust and the CT Meg is not within my budget right now. So I am leaning more towards the Brock SMEG or a Ti Winder however I am still researching these two that I have narrowed down. Thanks
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posted March 29, 2010 08:29 AM
Leave the flys in if its an 08 or 09.It will only help bellow 3gs.It dosent do much.save your money and buy some gears.That make a much better improvement.The flys are there to help you not mog the motor at low rpms because its hard on the bottom end.If you drag race take them out because you will never be bellow 3gs on the tach.
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dakota9498
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posted March 29, 2010 08:36 AM
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Leave the flys in if its an 08 or 09.It will only help bellow 3gs.It dosent do much.save your money and buy some gears.That make a much better improvement.The flys are there to help you not mog the motor at low rpms because its hard on the bottom end.If you drag race take them out because you will never be bellow 3gs on the tach.
Seriously you are on this again?! Your argument does no good here because it doesn't cost him any money because he is already going to install an exhaust and therefore will already need a Power Commander.
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dakota9498
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posted March 29, 2010 08:42 AM
 Edited By: dakota9498 on 29 Mar 2010 16:43
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bad ass 14: I have a 2009 ZX-14 SE from what I am hearing if I have not ridden on a track yet it is best to learn the basics first and learn the bike before adding any engine mods. I am not sure if the 2009 pulls harder then the 06 since I haven't ridden an 06. However the guys I ride with says that my 09 has more low /mid range then theirs. Most of the guys here have the Muzzy's and one has a Yoshimura R-77 all full exhaust. I am looking to add a different and more powerful performance exhaust and the CT Meg is not within my budget right now. So I am leaning more towards the Brock SMEG or a Ti Winder however I am still researching these two that I have narrowed down. Thanks
First, the TiWinder is a little more expensive than the CT Meg. And didn't you say you wanted an exhaust that didn't compromise ground clearance? If so you definitely don't want the TiWinder or the Sidewinder. Those exhaust are pretty much track only when you want the most ground clearance available to get it in the dirt.
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posted March 29, 2010 08:43 AM
I have an 08 and think the fly removal is a must do mod evenon second gen 14s. It is so much more controlable without them.
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posted March 29, 2010 10:38 AM
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I have an 08 and think the fly removal is a must do mod evenon second gen 14s. It is so much more controlable without them.
Hell yes! 
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bad ass 14
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posted March 29, 2010 10:49 AM
Your gonna get an exhaust whether it be a Brock's or whatever, removing the flyes isa must for best overall performance. I know when you remove them add the exhaust with a good map and the street stacks you will love it. The Brock's street map wit the advancer at +4 degrees is killer. Your 09 will benefit from the flye removal just not like my 06 did.
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posted March 29, 2010 11:25 AM
The Muzzy m14 is the best all around pipe for the bucks. It does everything well at half the cost of the other players. Yea I am expecting a Brockland cop at the door any minute.
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bad ass 14
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posted March 29, 2010 11:38 AM
Ha ha, your under arrest. Your right my friend has an M14 and his bike kicks ass as well. I went with the Brock's cause 2 guys ridin the same bike wit the same set ups could be a little homo like.
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posted March 29, 2010 11:43 AM
Brocks police lol! 
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posted March 29, 2010 11:59 AM
i run brocks because rob muzzy is a douche
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dakota9498
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posted March 29, 2010 12:21 PM
lmao
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