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posted March 07, 2010 11:03 AM        
S1000rr "183mph true"

I just cought the top speed in this vid in the last few seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EBo2Zl3Y6w

Does "true" mean drag limited or electronic limited/ rev limited?
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posted March 07, 2010 11:10 AM        
Overpriced TRUE

LOL...

I just read in BIKES and Fast Bikes (both british mags) that the S1000RR has the most RWHP of any bike tested (even the gen 2 busa) and has the highest top speed 189.9 mph of any bike tested.

However they were only able to pull a 10.2@148 in the quarter. So they are a few bikes still faster than it.
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Zone Head
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posted March 07, 2010 11:25 AM        
quote:
Overpriced TRUE

LOL...

I just read in BIKES and Fast Bikes (both british mags) that the S1000RR has the most RWHP of any bike tested (even the gen 2 busa) and has the highest top speed 189.9 mph of any bike tested.

However they were only able to pull a 10.2@148 in the quarter. So they are a few bikes still faster than it.


If they got 189 mph and another got 183mph, I would bet its drag limited, Being that weather conditions and rider weight ect would effect the top speed. Does anyone have a number for the stock zx14 (gen 2) top speed with the limiter fooled or removed?
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davej


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posted March 07, 2010 11:43 AM        
The S1000RR has a very tall 1st gear and the slipper clutch does it no help. Right clutch and gearing could put in the 8's. How long will it last, no clue. Almost 37K miles on the 14 with just minor issues.
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Zone Head
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posted March 07, 2010 11:55 AM        
I'm skeptical to that number being that it is down 31 foot pounds of torque compared to the bigger 14. And doesn't make peak power till 13 grand, seems a little high and late in a drag race.. Just my 2 cents.. I must say the more I read about it, the more I want to add one to my collection, this bike must have crazy roll on acceleration. The handling and breaking are first rate from what i've read.
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posted March 07, 2010 11:59 AM        
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28
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posted March 07, 2010 12:37 PM        
quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28


Hell I could do that with my pickup,
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posted March 07, 2010 12:48 PM        
quote:
quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cM9S2AzU28


Hell I could do that with my pickup,


hell i would pull the fuckin table over with the mighty 14 that looked like it was gonna be a 1.75 60' at best
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posted March 07, 2010 12:52 PM        

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posted March 07, 2010 12:54 PM        

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posted March 07, 2010 01:55 PM        
quote:
Overpriced TRUE

LOL...

I just read in BIKES and Fast Bikes (both british mags) that the S1000RR has the most RWHP of any bike tested (even the gen 2 busa) and has the highest top speed 189.9 mph of any bike tested.

However they were only able to pull a 10.2@148 in the quarter. So they are a few bikes still faster than it.


was that strapped and lowered and suspension set up to launch? if not, I think it'd be hard to argue for a light unmanageable litre bike out of the box those numbers are acceptable.

although BMW didn't design it to be a drag bike anyway.

screw the mags anyway. I want one of these but not buying into the hype. the new Honda 1000RR and YZF-R1 was hyped and we saw those go exactly nowhere
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posted March 07, 2010 04:53 PM        
And recalls and such are here.....


http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257945
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posted March 07, 2010 05:40 PM        Edited By: SteveWFL on 8 Mar 2010 01:40
9K revs "until after the 1st service"

I think my Kawi was 7,000 RPM until 1st service or something like that who knows who cares lol





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posted March 16, 2010 01:05 PM        
Seems like the numbers are all over..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-9ddglI6jU
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posted March 16, 2010 01:18 PM        
quote:
Does anyone have a number for the stock zx14 (gen 2) top speed with the limiter fooled or removed?


My son ran 196.11mph on a bone stock 2006 ZX14 (limiter bypassed) with only 21 miles on the odometer. That was an official speed at a mile event.
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pazx14rider


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posted March 16, 2010 03:56 PM        
I was a sceptic until reading this write up by Brock Davidson.

http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=5526&z=2

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posted March 16, 2010 08:33 PM        Edited By: Flyboy on 17 Mar 2010 04:53
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I was a sceptic until reading this write up by Brock Davidson.

http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=5526&z=2


Write up was all press junket. No numbers. If BMW was so sure of their power they would have allowed some bikes to run the quarter mile or top end.

In 2006 the "stock" 14 did 189 mph at Bonneville. (6,700 ft. density altitude) At sea level that's close to 205 +- mph. No comparison-- Hopefully someone will bring one of these to Bonneville this year and we can compare apples to apples. Or Maxton-- Or those great airstrips in England.
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posted March 17, 2010 04:36 AM        Edited By: BobC on 17 Mar 2010 12:51


It does seem to be a good bike, a friend of mine has one with the Akrapovic, he loves it and it looks really good too. The UK bikes are all restricted in rpm until after the first service, is that world-wide?

The dealership I work for doesn't sell BMW - but looking on the bright side, the other manufacturers will have to play catch up now and the next couple of seasons should be really interesting.

Motorcycle News, the UK weekly, performed a group test last week (at the new Motorland track near Barcelona in Spain) with nine of the biggest selling superbikes, all using their makers preferred tyre and suspension settings. The BMW kicked-ass, over 3 seconds a lap faster than the slowest bike and 1.2 seconds faster than the second quickest, the Aprilia RSV4 Factory.

I know most people on here think in terms of standing quarters or ultimate top speed, me included, but these bikes are made for circuits not drags. Doing what it was built for the BMW is the current top dog.
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posted March 17, 2010 06:12 AM        
wow...quite a few bandwagon bashers here eh?

You can't even compare the BMW 1000 to a ZX-14. It's a SS liter bike for roadracing.

It's a badass liter bike with a lot of new technology that the others will follow. On track performance will show that...BMW's first year in WSBK was very good considering they have not been in the roadracing business. All thier F1 experience will show up quickly...keep your eyes on WSBK this year. Gonna be a blast as usual.
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posted March 17, 2010 07:31 AM        
+1 on WSBK & MotoGP should be a interesting year . I think BMW will start picking up the pace in WSBK this year.
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posted March 17, 2010 07:38 AM        
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wow...quite a few bandwagon bashers here eh?

You can't even compare the BMW 1000 to a ZX-14. It's a SS liter bike for roadracing.

It's a badass liter bike with a lot of new technology that the others will follow. On track performance will show that...BMW's first year in WSBK was very good considering they have not been in the roadracing business. All thier F1 experience will show up quickly...keep your eyes on WSBK this year. Gonna be a blast as usual.


No just wanting to see the facts. Ive seen and heard lots of numbers thrown around for this bike.
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posted March 17, 2010 07:48 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 17 Mar 2010 15:49
Honestly, way more BMW "hype" than detractors. Seriously, look at the media..look at the checks BMW is writing.

Let's see the performance to match the claims and ridiculous hype. The tablecloth vid is the epitome of bogus, trumped-up marketing.

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posted March 17, 2010 08:02 AM        
Don't be surprised when you see how it performs. Like I said, last years WSBK performance was a very good indicator of what this bike will be. Don't you think all that on track performance data was not used to tweak this bike? I will be suprised if it's not on par with what is being put out. This isn't a Japanese bike, and they don't march to the same beat. Look at there performance cars...no sand bagging going on there...the company as a whole is performance oriented...no real reason for them to be sandbagging. BMW don't build junk in any line they manufacture.
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posted March 17, 2010 08:02 AM        
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Honestly, way more BMW "hype" than detractors. Seriously, look at the media..look at the checks BMW is writing.

Let's see the performance to match the claims and ridiculous hype. The tablecloth vid is the epitome of bogus, trumped-up marketing.


.......... I thought it was a cool vid. Would I buy a bike because of marketing? no, but what bike would I buy because of good marketing........ ? Not any I can think of.

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posted March 17, 2010 08:04 AM        
I will be just as supportive as anyone...once it backs up the claims.

I'm tired of the hype, the "leaked" dyno #'s, the tablecloth vids...let's see what it does in the hands of the customers, on the street and track.

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