zx14durham
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posted February 21, 2010 04:17 PM
Motor going, shiny particles in oil.
Installed cycle logics lockup yesterday I brought off member here, After I completed install & began pouring oil out of pan into container under bright light, I saw some tiny shiny particles in oil. Bike has ran fine up too this point, I have a spare so Im not worried. I was wondering if anyone saw tiny particles in their oil & bike still run for awhile afterwards. After seeing this I listened too the engine with a stethoscope & could here a light knock, I compared the sound to my buddy's bike & I did not hear the knock. I guess I will be changing motors here shortly. What else is a good indicator of bearing failure, I heard of cutting open the oil filter.
  
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KZScott
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posted February 21, 2010 04:24 PM
gold specs?(copper from the center of the shells)
pull the plugs to see if your pistons have made contact with them
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smokinZX14
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posted February 21, 2010 04:40 PM
what year ? what mileage ? what oil? what type of riding ?
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zx14durham
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posted February 21, 2010 04:47 PM
06, 10,000 miles, Drag a little, 60 shot of nitrous, Amsoil synthetic. Sprayed mabe 20 times, Can't count the number of hard launches & full throttle runs.
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 21, 2010 05:02 PM
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Installed cycle logics lockup yesterday I brought off member here, After I completed install & began pouring oil out of pan into container under bright light, I saw some tiny shiny particles in oil. Bike has ran fine up too this point, I have a spare so Im not worried. I was wondering if anyone saw tiny particles in their oil & bike still run for awhile afterwards. After seeing this I listened too the engine with a stethoscope & could here a light knock, I compared the sound to my buddy's bike & I did not hear the knock. I guess I will be changing motors here shortly. What else is a good indicator of bearing failure, I heard of cutting open the oil filter.
have you strained the oil through a cloth to make absolutely sure it is metal?
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SixSixoh6
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posted February 21, 2010 05:36 PM
i highly doubt the motor is going, i mean as the motor wears its going to wear some of the metal naturally. pssh as long as that bad boy is runnin strong i wouldnt worry about it.
when i worked on cars it wasnt uncommon to see "shiny" oil during a lube change
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posted February 21, 2010 05:53 PM
can't be the motor...he's running the almighty amsoil in it. 
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zx14durham
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posted February 21, 2010 07:06 PM
Don't plan on removing it until it gets a significant knock, Loss of oil pressure, or starts to run bad. Interested in seeing the inside of the motor too see the affects of the Nos on the pistons & too see if there was any contact between the pistons & valve due to valve float with stock springs on the 60 shot. My other motor has the valve springs & retainers plus head work. I wanted too see how the motor would hold up. I will rebuild this motor after I put the the other one on the bike, I just don't beleive in buying a lot of expensive parts unless it's needed, Rods, Pistons, & So on. I watched too many people go threw their motors with all good stuff & have more problems than the guy beside them that remained stock with everything else remaining the same. Plus I ride a lot on the street, So my bikes can never be dedicated to race only. The funny thing is, My bike ran it fastest 1/8 mile time on motor the last time at the track and hasn't been ridden 5 miles since.
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KZScott
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posted February 21, 2010 07:13 PM
just pull the oil pan and you will know for sure if its fine or not
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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zx14durham
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posted February 21, 2010 07:53 PM
Should there be a lot of particles in the bottom of the pan.
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posted February 21, 2010 07:58 PM
Cut the filter, with a filter cutter........
That will show you........
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted February 21, 2010 11:29 PM
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Cut the filter, with a filter cutter........
That will show you........
+1
If a bearing is going it will all be in there especially if its enough to make a knock
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted February 21, 2010 11:30 PM
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i highly doubt the motor is going, i mean as the motor wears its going to wear some of the metal naturally. pssh as long as that bad boy is runnin strong i wouldnt worry about it.
when i worked on cars it wasnt uncommon to see "shiny" oil during a lube change
I agree 
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