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posted February 13, 2010 12:23 PM
Head Gasket??? Or Condensation???
 
Last time at the track was 3 weeks ago. While at the track a guy came up to me and said that water was coming out of my exhaust. I thought to myself no big deal just the humidity here in Florida. After I got home that night my sight glass was foggy and white. I drained my oil today and it look ok. I took off my clutch cover and this is what I saw. Do think it could be built up condensation? Or worse a slow leak on my head gasket? I took off my reed valve covers today and one of them was full of moisture as well. Thoughts????
  
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Shane661
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posted February 13, 2010 12:45 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Feb 2010 20:46
I can't see those pics at work, Chad, but....
My bike had some white slime inside the clutch cover and sight glass (cold, dry garage). In my case it seems like a simple condensation issue.
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posted February 13, 2010 01:09 PM
Edited By: SixSixoh6 on 13 Feb 2010 21:12
i dont know if this will help, but when i worked as a mechanic, it wasnt uncommon to see that same milky substance underneath the oil cap during routine checks. i dont think its anything ti worry about.
or just check your coolant level and see if anything seems a miss.
if ya got one of them fancy pants coolant testers it can detect whether or not any exhaust gases has been present in your coolant.
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zx14fan
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posted February 13, 2010 02:05 PM
That yellow fluid inside the case looks like fuel to me?
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posted February 13, 2010 02:10 PM
If you're getting coolant in your oil, I would assume that your coolant would have some traces of oil in it too -- like Six said, check your coolant and see if there's any brown or yellow milk in it too.......then you'd know
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posted February 13, 2010 02:40 PM
nooby i think it is condensation. when you don't run the motor for a long time (like an extended ride) it heats up minimally and then cools forming the condensation. especially in a humid environment like florida. you see cars all the time on these cool mornings spouting steam out of the exhaust due to the same thing. after a few miles the steam gets heated out of the exhaust system. if you don't drive too far the moisture stays there. you race your bike mostly from what i gather so most likely it doesn't get heated for an extended period, causing a condensation build up. take it out for some long rides....i doubt you have a head gasket issue as strong as that thing runs.
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posted February 13, 2010 02:50 PM
quote:
That yellow fluid inside the case looks like fuel to me?
i would think you could smell fuel if that was the case
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posted February 13, 2010 03:00 PM
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nooby i think it is condensation. when you don't run the motor for a long time (like an extended ride) it heats up minimally and then cools forming the condensation. especially in a humid environment like florida. you see cars all the time on these cool mornings spouting steam out of the exhaust due to the same thing. after a few miles the steam gets heated out of the exhaust system. if you don't drive too far the moisture stays there. you race your bike mostly from what i gather so most likely it doesn't get heated for an extended period, causing a condensation build up. take it out for some long rides....i doubt you have a head gasket issue as strong as that thing runs.
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posted February 13, 2010 03:05 PM
Oil & condensation makes peanut butter
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posted February 13, 2010 03:40 PM
ha ha sucka .. you final got some cold air ... enjoy it
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posted February 13, 2010 04:02 PM
thats normal Chad. dont worry about it
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posted February 13, 2010 07:18 PM
No you cant smell it if its fuel.
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posted February 13, 2010 07:29 PM
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If you're getting coolant in your oil, I would assume that your coolant would have some traces of oil in it too --
like Six said, check your coolant and see if there's any brown or yellow milk in it too.......then you'd know
+1
Do the checks and see what you come up with before jumping to conclusions.
Looks like normal condensation or maybe water from washing the bike .
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posted February 13, 2010 07:42 PM
taste it..if you say hmm not bad...its coolant..if you say ahhh fak! it's condensation
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posted February 13, 2010 07:44 PM
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taste it..if you say hmm not bad...its coolant..if you say ahhh fak! it's condensation
lol! Let us know if it taste like peanut butter, or oil.
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posted February 13, 2010 08:06 PM
coolant is the last glass of kool aid you will ever need
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posted February 13, 2010 08:16 PM
i can tell you what happens when a head gasket goes .. if you ride more than a 1/4 mile like 10 miles your reservoir will over flow and bike will over heat .. i've never had coolant mix with oil .. just compression pushing coolant out of block
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posted February 13, 2010 10:22 PM
If your running short trips or pure strip, the motor never gets hot enough to boil the condensation out of the crankcase.
as long as your coolant level is good and stable, don't worry about the condensation
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posted February 14, 2010 05:40 AM
Thanks for all the input guys.
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posted February 14, 2010 06:34 AM
How about taking it for a 30 kin ride around town when it warms up. See if that will grtall the water out. Mine does it quite often but when I ride it to town it goes away.
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posted February 14, 2010 08:45 AM
That thin head gasket, along with that 1655 Muzzy big block is the culprit..no doubt.
lol j/k
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posted February 14, 2010 09:02 AM
i figured that it was the 100 wet shot that was doing it.
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posted February 14, 2010 09:07 AM
Edited By: KZScott on 14 Feb 2010 17:09
clearly it would get hot if that were the case lol... unless that 100 shot was setup reallll rich 
seriously tho, Ive seen this in clutch covers of healthy bikes, and under the valve covers of some pretty nasty v8s(like 900hp +).
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posted February 14, 2010 09:36 AM
my glass was smokey after recent oil change then i warmed up and glass cleared up.
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zx14fan
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posted February 14, 2010 10:50 AM
Have it tested.
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