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Seven


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posted February 12, 2010 08:18 PM        
Shane any reason you decided to go with the spray bar instead of dumping ur shot into the air ducts before the filter??????
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Stu64


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posted February 12, 2010 08:29 PM        
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Turbo, different oil pan, PC5 w/autotune.


will you just be runnin stock motor? any internal work? been lookin at cams as well for next years tear down. havent seen much feedback on the PC5.


Stock internals. Raised oil pressure with new valve and pump cover.

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posted February 13, 2010 04:08 AM        
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Shane any reason you decided to go with the spray bar instead of dumping ur shot into the air ducts before the filter??????


Spraybar is more precise way of delivering the nitrous. This way you know each individual cylinder gets the same amount of juice.
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Shane661


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posted February 13, 2010 04:28 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Feb 2010 12:31
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Shane any reason you decided to go with the spray bar instead of dumping ur shot into the air ducts before the filter??????


Precision was my primary concern. However, I am not 100% certain that I will use the spraybar. While it is more precise, I also see merit to atomizing the nitrous further up the stream.

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01smokes


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posted February 13, 2010 11:26 AM        Edited By: 01smokes on 13 Feb 2010 19:30
i did a turbo kit, big fuel system, drag seat and shortened up the wheel base 2'' and a OSR cut pan. should be a fun ride lol
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SixSixoh6


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posted February 13, 2010 11:36 AM        
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i did a turbo kit, big fuel system, drag seat and shortened up the wheel base 2'' and a OSR cut pan. should be a fun ride lol


uh oh shortened??? what were you sittin @??? trying to compete in a cetain class for the change in wheelbase?
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01smokes


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posted February 13, 2010 11:50 AM        
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i did a turbo kit, big fuel system, drag seat and shortened up the wheel base 2'' and a OSR cut pan. should be a fun ride lol


uh oh shortened??? what were you sittin @??? trying to compete in a cetain class for the change in wheelbase?


No class racing for me not enough bikes around here to have any type of ''real racing'' i just want to prove some points that i could go faster than the longer bikes around here with the little short bike. Right now its sitting at 62'' it was at 64'' but when i get the ams1000 i want to see if i could take it down to 60'' and still make it work

And the short bikes will always hook better on the street, i do alot of street racing so im trying to set it up for the street more than anything
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Shane661


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posted February 13, 2010 11:51 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Feb 2010 19:52
It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.

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posted February 13, 2010 12:12 PM        
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It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.


what boost controller do you guys run?
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Shane661


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posted February 13, 2010 01:56 PM        
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It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.


what boost controller do you guys run?


We have an MSBC-1, but an AMS-1000 would be a better choice.

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posted February 13, 2010 02:35 PM        
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It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.


what boost controller do you guys run?


We have an MSBC-1, but an AMS-1000 would be a better choice.


what spring do you run in the gate?
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Shane661


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posted February 13, 2010 02:40 PM        
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It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.


what boost controller do you guys run?


We have an MSBC-1, but an AMS-1000 would be a better choice.


what spring do you run in the gate?


We have a 6 lb. spring in it. Running 20 psi max.

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SixSixoh6


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posted February 14, 2010 07:38 AM        
anyone gonna run the bonneville box from muzzys?
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dogg24


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posted February 14, 2010 08:07 AM        
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anyone gonna run the bonneville box from muzzys?


Compton has one. I'm thinking about trying it,but I haven't heard much about it from people using it. I don't think he really had much time to try it out once he got it though cause of the weather.
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Compton


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posted February 14, 2010 08:30 AM        
I got one, it works good. Havent had any issues with it. I just did another gear change so ill change the settings on it again.

and as for me, changing a few things around, nothing crazy.
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KZScott


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posted February 14, 2010 08:45 AM        
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Shane any reason you decided to go with the spray bar instead of dumping ur shot into the air ducts before the filter??????


Precision was my primary concern. However, I am not 100% certain that I will use the spraybar. While it is more precise, I also see merit to atomizing the nitrous further up the stream.


pro mod guys run the foggers right in the head..?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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Shane661


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posted February 14, 2010 08:46 AM        
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pro mod guys run the foggers right in the head..?


Dry??

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KZScott


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posted February 14, 2010 08:48 AM        
wet
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Shane661


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posted February 14, 2010 08:50 AM        
I think that is the best way if you go wet. But those fogger nozzles really atomize the fuel and nitrous well. My setup is dry.
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KZScott


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posted February 14, 2010 08:54 AM        Edited By: KZScott on 14 Feb 2010 16:55
you could run these:


your fuel cant get much better atomization than with injectors
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Compton


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posted February 14, 2010 08:55 AM        
Shane since you are doing mile long racing, ever think of a better controller with imput/outputs so you can datalog?

i have the pnc-3000 setup with innovate dl-32 and lc-1 and i know on the pnc it will control the nitrous and shut it off based on a/f readings too.
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08 Busa, just a little longer and louder and lower than the 14

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Shane661


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posted February 14, 2010 08:57 AM        
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you could run these:



I saw those, but I already have the Adams bar. I'll either use the bar, or spray it in near the intakes, most likely. I do like those nozzles, though. They would probably be great for a custom setup..

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KZScott


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posted February 14, 2010 09:04 AM        
if i were to do a dry shot over a 60, i would use them. some 1/8 ss hard lines, a shower head d block, solenoid and its half done... and not cluttering up the air box like a spray bar. I know they claim no hp lost na with them installed, but they must create turbulence
my .02
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos

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Shane661


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posted February 14, 2010 09:22 AM        Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Feb 2010 17:30
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if i were to do a dry shot over a 60, i would use them. some 1/8 ss hard lines, a shower head d block, solenoid and its half done... and not cluttering up the air box like a spray bar. I know they claim no hp lost na with them installed, but they must create turbulence
my .02


I guess there are two ways to look at it. Nozzles protruding in or around the intake stacks could also have an adverse affect on airflow. Probably the least obtrusive is the cheap old in the ram air tube method, for smaller shots at least.

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01smokes


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posted February 14, 2010 02:13 PM        
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It will be fine as long as you have a boost controller.

We usually step the Turbo up about 5 psi per gear, depending on gearing.


what boost controller do you guys run?


We have an MSBC-1, but an AMS-1000 would be a better choice.


what spring do you run in the gate?


We have a 6 lb. spring in it. Running 20 psi max.


Damn 20psi how much power does that thing make?
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