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posted February 07, 2010 11:32 AM
Getting wheels ready for powdercoat
as title states, i will be going through the steps to get my wheels ready for coating. Decided to not go the painting route since the coating will hold up better (im guessin anyways) just curious how you guys went about getting those bearings out. since i ordered new ones in the first place anyways, did any of you just destroy them on the way out and have a shop "press" them back in?
also im trying to see how much of this stuff i can do without paying a shop too much. same question with the tires...have any of you used those "tire spoons?" how did breaking that bead work out for ya?
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posted February 07, 2010 12:29 PM
we use a line bearing puller
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posted February 08, 2010 07:45 AM
I've done this several times...it's not hard but technique is EVERYTHING with this task. PM me your phone number and I'll give you a ring to try and explain what you need to do.
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posted February 08, 2010 08:58 AM
to knock the bearings out just angle the inner axle and gently tap them out.
Throw the old bearings out. When I powdercoated my rims I used a die grinder to clean up the casting lines,
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posted February 08, 2010 09:00 AM
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you are not going to gently tap them out...
also, do this with the TIRE ON THE WHEEL, unless you want to go deaf. lol
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posted February 08, 2010 12:13 PM
I wouldn't try andtake the tire off yourself. It's a bitch with those little tools. Best $10 I've spent is to take it to a shop.
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posted February 08, 2010 01:17 PM
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I wouldn't try andtake the tire off yourself. It's a bitch with those little tools. Best $10 I've spent is to take it to a shop.
not if you have the technique and Ru-Glyde...I've spent less than 100 bucks on my changing/balancing equipment. Been doing it for almost 6 years now...I've saved a TON o f money over those years doing it myself. I normally go through at least 3 sets a year and with the dragbike, at least 2-3 a year.
Harbor Freight manual tire changer to break the beads, and good tire irons/rim protectors for the rest. Takes about 15 minutes or less to change both tires. Just gotta have someone show you how to do it and then get in some practice.
For swapping the bearings, you're going to be needing a nice, long punch. You'll need to lever the inner hub spacer over a little bit to get a lip for the punch to contact the bearing with. BIG hammer will help this process go much easier as it has much more energy being delivered with each hit. Work your way around the bearing to punch it out evenly. Get that sucker cocked up in there and see how ya like it ....no fun.
For install, put the new bearing in the freezer for a couple of hours. Spray some wd-40 on the bearing cup and bearing mating surface....and with a socket that contacts the OUTER portion of the bearing (or a bearing driver) and evenly tap the new bearing in until it seats. You'll know when it does as the sound changes dramitcally when it bottoms out. It'll go back in MUCH easier as the bearing is shrunk a bit due to being frozen. Just be careful not to cock it up going in...nice and even and work your way around it with small taps and it'll drop right in.
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posted February 08, 2010 02:50 PM
Just go on ebay and buy a cheap bearing tool, they are cheap and worth it.. Then you can save the bearings without messing them all up.. If you need me to get the name of the one I got I can do that..... I use mine all the time now..
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posted February 09, 2010 12:56 AM
Good info guys!! I will probably stick to the shop puttin on tires until I get a tire changer. Sounds like I can handle the bearings...I ordered new ones already so I'm not worried about using the old ones.
Johnson...you got the name of where you got that bearing tool handy?
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posted February 09, 2010 04:26 AM
Not to change the subject, but I'd tried my hand at polishing wheels on a Yamaha that I had. Thought I could save hundreds of dollars doing it myself so I could simply pay a local plating company to chrome them for me.........ha! Let me enlighten you all, this was no simple project.......at least it wasn't for me. But, I'm sure that since I'd never really had much experience polishing at that time, it played a big part in it. I spent the better part of 80 hours completing this major task. Took a die grinder to the casting seams and to grind the wheel numbers down, then threw each one on top of a water filled trash can to begin wet sanding them one at a time -- the ( simple, or so i thought ) 3 legged mags were sand cast and the surface was very pitted n textured, so I started with 120grit and worked through every grade of paper all the way up to 1500grit........all by hand. OUCH.......Talk about sore knuckles and fingers!! I'd even made up some "tools" from 3/8" wood dowel to help me get in every little crevice which did help but I'd found out really quick why the pro's use power tools to take on jobs like this. All I know is that I'll NEVER do this again!! Stupid on my part since keeping bare polished aluminum clean and bright is damn near a full time job -- but live and learn. So, If you do polish aluminum and don't have it chromed.......you'll be buffing it back out with metal polish several times a year to keep it shining. Alot of you probably already knew this, but I had to learn the hard way so I thought I'd share to help any other naive individuals that need it.
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posted February 09, 2010 02:04 PM
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Just go on ebay and buy a cheap bearing tool, they are cheap and worth it.. Then you can save the bearings without messing them all up.. If you need me to get the name of the one I got I can do that..... I use mine all the time now..
No way should you reuse any bearing that you have to punch/pound out by striking the inner race. Ever. You are putting a side load/stress on that bearing that it is not equipped to deal with.
You can't remove these bearings without using the inner race to get them out.
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posted February 09, 2010 03:22 PM
Yep, that's a no no reusing bearings that's been pressed out. Those bearing races don't like side force
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posted February 09, 2010 04:25 PM
I do have new ones in mine, but I have done it before with no problems at all.....
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posted February 09, 2010 04:29 PM
pit posse is the brand.... They carry a few different kinds.. you can find them on ebay pretty cheap.. very good tool...
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posted February 09, 2010 08:55 PM
Nice! Thanks ill have to check them out.
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