SixSixoh6
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posted January 10, 2010 07:55 AM
How many of you drag racers footshift??
as title states, ill be getting a catalyst seat soon for this upcoming season and i MAY hold off on the air shifter setup just to see how well i can run without the airshifter. bad idea?
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Shane661
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posted January 10, 2010 08:03 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Jan 2010 16:26
The Catalyst seat will make it a little harder to make the 1-2 shift.
There are a lot of reasons to run an airshifter; quick and reliable shifting is only one of them (or is that two of them?).
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posted January 10, 2010 08:14 AM
http://www.mpsracing.com/products/MPS/autoshift.asp
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posted January 10, 2010 08:27 AM
Both my boys love foot shifting and running stock arms. They know they can run faster with an airshifter and long wheelbase but according to them it takes the fun out of it.
With just bolt-ons on their 14's they both run low 5.90's in the 1/8th, we're hoping to make it to a decent quarter mile track to see what they run. I'm thinking around nine teens, time will tell.
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posted January 10, 2010 09:03 AM
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eklipse636
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posted January 10, 2010 09:18 AM
Depending on how tall and flexible you are you could have a little trouble getting that 1-2 shift. My air shifter didn't help much on my et but made it a lot more consistant.
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posted January 10, 2010 10:13 AM
CycleTek is what is on my 14. Easy to install and has been dead reliable so far.
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posted January 10, 2010 10:16 AM
I foot shift and I agree about the 1st to 2nd change being the most difficult. I have been considering a 1 up, 5 down race shift set-up with rearsets. If I use a shifter I will have to change classes.
It will also make with the 5th to 6th change at LSR events easier. This is usually at 170mph or above and it's sometimes hard to get the toe of your left foot up onto the foot rest and out of the wind blast at these speeds, as well as the drag this causes being inefficient and losing you speed.
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posted January 10, 2010 11:14 AM
I have air but i foot shift alot still i just like to say i can foot shift my bike to a quicker and faster ET than the guy next to me with a air shifter
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SixSixoh6
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posted January 10, 2010 11:17 AM
I think I see everyones points. I already kno will end up getting one. But just to challege myself and make myself a better racer. I'm not that flexible the last I recall.
I did run the reverse pattern on my zx10 with the stock rearsets.
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eklipse636
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posted January 10, 2010 11:40 AM
We hardly ever run heads up, so being the fastest dosent amount to a whole lot here. Just bracket racing is all I can compete in..
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posted January 10, 2010 12:01 PM
I foot shift sometimes just to keep in shape!!
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posted January 10, 2010 12:05 PM
Yes , I foot shift with my catalyst seat , and the faster you make your bike , the harder it is to foot-shift especially from 1to 2nd gear! I never missed a sngle shift till I geared down , and then the misshifts got more frequent ! I'm thinking an air-shift would help all around !
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posted January 10, 2010 12:07 PM
Once the 60fts. get in the low 1.50's it is real hard to not miss a shift.
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posted January 10, 2010 12:12 PM
I don't have a catalyst, but the only shift that i ever have a problem getting is 2-3 if i have to hot lap and my bike starts heating up. That's with 16/46 gearing.
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posted January 10, 2010 12:44 PM
I bought a catalyst, but never even attempted to use it. I already look like a gorilla on a tricycle as it is. I was fooling myself to think I could make the 1-2 shift with that catalyst seat. Oh wells.... I always thought air shifting takes some of the sport out of drag racing, but I can see their appeal. I'll probably get one half way through this next drag race season.
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madkawboy
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posted January 10, 2010 12:52 PM
i have a stock seat cut down and i foot shift. I love it
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SixSixoh6
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posted January 10, 2010 04:22 PM
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I don't have a catalyst, but the only shift that i ever have a problem getting is 2-3 if i have to hot lap and my bike starts heating up. That's with 16/46 gearing.
sheesh 16/46?? how is that around town? ill only have a -1 +2 to start off with
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SixSixoh6
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posted January 10, 2010 04:24 PM
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Depending on how tall and flexible you are you could have a little trouble getting that 1-2 shift. My air shifter didn't help much on my et but made it a lot more consistant.
im about 5'11. so i guess that makes me "average"??? i never really had a problem getting my feet up when i raced my R6 with a quickshifter setup. (very very nice btw) but this IS a bike with grunt!! haha
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posted January 10, 2010 06:23 PM
I bought a Jones House of Power fiberglass seat for my 12 and it was the best dollar for dollar investment I made on my bike,I footshift and found the seat keeping my fat ass in place was the ticket for no more missing the 1 to 2 upshift. I was taught that it was always good to master the art of foot shifting in the event of a problem with an air/electric shifter you could still race and put a good # down. I hvae gone 9.70's on my stock wb 12 Crotch Rocket has gone 9.11 on his 12 foot shifting so I would say go ahead and do it
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Bawls
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posted January 10, 2010 09:09 PM
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I don't have a catalyst, but the only shift that i ever have a problem getting is 2-3 if i have to hot lap and my bike starts heating up. That's with 16/46 gearing.
sheesh 16/46?? how is that around town? ill only have a -1 +2 to start off with
pass everything but the gas station lol. I average 25ish mpg lol. I'm one of those people that could ride anything and be happy with it so after the first couple of trips i got used to the steep gearing on the street. I only have a 25mile each way commute every day and the track is only like 35 miles away so it doesn't bother me too much. Traction is hard to come by on the street though. Even with the u-soft.
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posted January 10, 2010 10:05 PM
Which is the better system from a reliability and economic standpoint...Air or Electric Shifter?
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Bawls
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posted January 10, 2010 10:10 PM
I'm actually looking at the PS3 from dale walker. I heard some guys talking about how well it worked so i'm going to do some more research on it.
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posted January 11, 2010 02:06 AM
quote:
I bought a Jones House of Power fiberglass seat for my 12 and it was the best dollar for dollar investment I made on my bike,I footshift and found the seat keeping my fat ass in place was the ticket for no more missing the 1 to 2 upshift. I was taught that it was always good to master the art of foot shifting in the event of a problem with an air/electric shifter you could still race and put a good # down. I hvae gone 9.70's on my stock wb 12 Crotch Rocket has gone 9.11 on his 12 foot shifting so I would say go ahead and do it
I still foot shift...
Its a challenge to me to be in a fairly aggressive launch possition and get a 1.48 60ft. while getting my left foot up for the 1-2 shift...I bracket race so foot shifting is ok...
If your heads up racing then you'll want a air shifter so you can get that better 60 foot from the real aggressive launch...
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eklipse636
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posted January 11, 2010 04:11 AM
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I bought a Jones House of Power fiberglass seat for my 12 and it was the best dollar for dollar investment I made on my bike,I footshift and found the seat keeping my fat ass in place was the ticket for no more missing the 1 to 2 upshift. I was taught that it was always good to master the art of foot shifting in the event of a problem with an air/electric shifter you could still race and put a good # down. I hvae gone 9.70's on my stock wb 12 Crotch Rocket has gone 9.11 on his 12 foot shifting so I would say go ahead and do it
I still foot shift...
Its a challenge to me to be in a fairly aggressive launch possition and get a 1.48 60ft. while getting my left foot up for the 1-2 shift...I bracket race so foot shifting is ok...
If your heads up racing then you'll want a air shifter so you can get that better 60 foot from the real aggressive launch...
I figured you would have a air shifter for bracketracing...
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