06redzx14
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posted January 07, 2010 12:28 PM
eklipse i've got a 46 you can try I'll try out the 48 and we'll swap again if it doesn't work for you
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BobC
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posted January 07, 2010 01:30 PM
If you cannot use full throttle in first then the gearing is too low and you will lose time with extra unneccesary gear changes.
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Wheelie
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posted January 07, 2010 01:47 PM
well the same comments are emerging when I said I was going 16/48, keep em coming.
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posted January 07, 2010 01:51 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Jan 2010 21:52
I don't know what's wrong with these guys, wee...if you weigh 60-70 lbs. more than Nooby or Smokin, you obviously need 7 more teeth of gearing. Isn't that the rule, ad 1 tooth for every 10 lbs of extra weight?? 
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posted January 07, 2010 01:56 PM
Shane, not sure what the rule is, but I think I could go with a 50 size pizza on back,
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SteddyTeddy
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posted January 07, 2010 01:59 PM
I used to run 17/46 on my ZRX with the stock motor only putting out 150HP & 82 Ft-lbs and it worked good at the track but hated it riding on the street. 16/48 is something I'd expect to see on a bar bike. I'm sure now that my motor is putting out closer to the 14's power, 16/48 would make my bike a wheelie machine even at 68"!!!!!
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eklipse636
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posted January 07, 2010 03:16 PM
My bike will not power wheelie in first. If I'm not getting full throttle it's my own fault. Sometimes if I just dump the clutch too hard it will come up a little but not as bad as you guys obviously are thinking
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 07, 2010 03:16 PM
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What u think ab the 330 times on the last slips I posted Shane?
There is nothing "wrong" with them, Dusty. But even with nearly a .10 better 60 ft, your 330's are sometimes just the equal to mine, and almost always within .01 -.03. Since you have more wheelbase, and more weight up front, that should really let you hammer the bike hard. You have 5 teeth more gear than I am running.
To me your 330' is a sign that you are not getting the throttle open as quickly as you might, and it is likely because of all that gear. I know there are a lot of variables, but that is just what I suspect.
I am not claiming to be the best rider around, just telling you what the slip is telling me.
Shane
Shane, you have about 2tenths less static weight though, not counting the rotational diff of the wheels. Dont you think this would even things out a bit?
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posted January 07, 2010 03:39 PM
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bawahaha .you can't drag me to hmp .. but don't worry big boy i'll be at the Crandell for the KOTT races and making a guest appearance at Noble for some of that PMRA stuff..
I CAN PUT YOU ON THE TRAILER even with a pizzzzza sprocket ..
cant blame you for not wanting me in Houston, the longer the track, the better chance you have to run me down with a turbo.
wee
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makenna
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posted January 07, 2010 03:54 PM
I don't race or run track, I prefer to ride with my friends on the street, mostly distance; is 17/43 too much for cruisin'? Shoud I go back to 17/41 for the distance trips and cruisin' around the city?
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makenna
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posted January 07, 2010 03:55 PM
I don't race or run track, I prefer to ride with my friends on the street, mostly distance; is 17/43 too much for cruisin'? Shoud I go back to 17/41 for the distance trips and cruisin' around the city?
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 07, 2010 04:04 PM
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I don't race or run track, I prefer to ride with my friends on the street, mostly distance; is 17/43 too much for cruisin'? Shoud I go back to 17/41 for the distance trips and cruisin' around the city?
Not really. It should feel like dropping one tooth in the front.
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posted January 07, 2010 04:20 PM
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quote], the longer the track, the better chance you have to run me down with a turbo.
wee
thats my plan buddy .. you better be wayzzzzzzzzzz out there when that lite hits ....
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posted January 07, 2010 04:24 PM
you left out the first part of my quote, you dont want me at Houston,
I will be there the 16th if you want to take a chance!
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posted January 07, 2010 04:29 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Jan 2010 00:31
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Shane, you have about 2tenths less static weight though, not counting the rotational diff of the wheels. Dont you think this would even things out a bit?
5 teeth of gear worth of difference? My bike with me on it and 2 gallons of gas is about 690 lbs. Do you think that Dusty's setup is 60-70 lbs. heavier than that??
5 Teeth of gear more than makes up for 30-40 lbs of weight once the throttle is pinned, trust me! I mean, you are talking 1"+ of additional wheelbase, and 5 gear teeth...vs. 30-40 lbs. of static weight??
If you think 16/48 will work for you, try it! Maybe it will! 
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posted January 07, 2010 04:35 PM
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you left out the first part of my quote, you dont want me at Houston,
wee
and you forgot what i told you .. YOU CAN'T DRAG ME TO HMP !!!!!!!!
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posted January 07, 2010 04:40 PM
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you left out the first part of my quote, you dont want me at Houston,
wee
and you forgot what i told you .. YOU CAN'T DRAG ME TO HMP !!!!!!!!
LOL I wonder why?
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posted January 07, 2010 04:43 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 8 Jan 2010 00:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zVIaZliJ4E
tell me where most of the crashing happens
and i'm being polite
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 07, 2010 04:43 PM
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Shane, you have about 2tenths less static weight though, not counting the rotational diff of the wheels. Dont you think this would even things out a bit?
5 teeth of gear worth of difference? My bike with me on it and 2 gallons of gas is about 690 lbs. Do you think that Dusty's setup is 60-70 lbs. heavier than that??
5 Teeth of gear more than makes up for 30-40 lbs of weight once the throttle is pinned, trust me! I mean, you are talking 1"+ of additional wheelbase, and 5 gear teeth...vs. 30-40 lbs. of static weight??
If you think 16/48 will work for you, try it! Maybe it will!
I dont know about the teeth diff, could be, but I dont know. Never ran that much difference. I weigh 15 pounds more than Dusty and mine weighs 765 with 2 gals fuel and me on it suited. I weighed the bike at a track scale and a warehouse scale to come up within 4 lbs of each other to be sure. So he could be 50-60lbs heavier which would be 2-3 tenths, right?
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Wheelie
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posted January 07, 2010 04:46 PM
Shane, does your bike weigh 458 with one gallon of fuel?
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posted January 07, 2010 04:50 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Jan 2010 01:48
You have obviously the heaviest zx-14 known to man. If you drop the weight of the exhaust and 3.8 gallons of fuel, your bike should be about 515 wet at the very most. Are you 250 suited? There is no question that the fuel is around 6.5 lbs per gallon, and the exhaust will save you 25-28 lbs. That doesn't include big weight savings like removing the mirrors or a catalyst seat.
It's not 50-60 lbs. And if it was, you think that I will make up .10 in 270 feet even though he has 5 more teeth of gearing??
Think about it man, go down two more teeth on the countershaft...think of how that will rip through the gears! If he were getting the throttle open he would leave me for dead!
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posted January 07, 2010 04:51 PM
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Shane, does your bike weigh 458 with one gallon of fuel?
wee
Wee, I've never weighed it or ran it with 1 gallon. It should be about that. But I usually have 2-3 gallons in it.
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14nooby
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posted January 07, 2010 04:54 PM
I would not run at that track. Why do all the cars lose at the 330?
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posted January 07, 2010 04:54 PM
here wee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65n_6BCjv8&feature=related
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 07, 2010 05:06 PM
Yeah, I know what you are saying about the weight because I have been reading here where guys with the same mods are weighing their bikes at 505-515 lbs. Me and 06red must have our frames made out of cast iron. I am going to take it to the certified scales when I ride it again and get a 3rd weigh.
Like I said, I dont know about the gearing. From a physics standpoint, yes, it should get out there quick. But only having experience 2 teeth at a time I really dont know what it would do. Regardless, he and wheelie are going a tenth to two faster than most of us heavy guys with the gear they are running. I think I will be running what Dusty's average 1/4 is now when I get the rebound slowed on my shock. That is with 16/44. I dont wanna loop my bike with the 48. My clutch hand is not that good.lol
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2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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