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posted December 29, 2009 12:59 AM
Coby Adams Oiling Mods for Cases ???
What is it that he's doing in regards to oiling mods for the cases. Adams Performance recently put up their RealStreet ZX-14 for sale that Jeremy Teasley was riding and listed a host of mods which included "Oiling modifications done to the cases" ???? Does anyone know what the oiling mods are or could possibly be ?? They put it up for sale then took it back off for unknown reasons...I think they took it off the market because they got news that Ryan Schnitz was coming back to AMA Dragbike in 2010 and needed a ride ? But anyways can someone find out what kind of oiling mods that they are doing to the ZX-14 Cases.....
  
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06redzx14
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posted December 29, 2009 07:19 AM
I think it's the balancer shaft replacements
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posted December 29, 2009 03:17 PM
I looked at the bike in passing at prostar and it looked to me like they ran a line up to the top of the clutch housing, by the oil fill cap and then drilled and tapped it. I am guessing it is running a steady stream of fresh oil from the pan up to the top and then dropping it on the plates.
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posted December 30, 2009 09:29 PM
Soo Will Ryan still be contracted to ride The Muzzy Pro stocker, that is whenever its @ the races???
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posted December 31, 2009 02:26 PM
I think the prostock project is done. I will be down at his shop next week to drop my bike off I will try to get some info from him then.
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posted December 31, 2009 06:01 PM
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I looked at the bike in passing at prostar and it looked to me like they ran a line up to the top of the clutch housing, by the oil fill cap and then drilled and tapped it. I am guessing it is running a steady stream of fresh oil from the pan up to the top and then dropping it on the plates.
this would hurt power, and hardly any oil woild get to the plates if a billet basket is used
you sure this wasnt an extra crank case vent?
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posted January 01, 2010 12:47 PM
If I told ya I would have to kill you....
LOL J/K
I don't know what Colby is doing, but I know what a few others are.....
the transmission and pistons are getting way more oil then they need, and in some instances starving the crank bearings 
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posted January 01, 2010 02:17 PM
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If I told ya I would have to kill you....
LOL J/K
I don't know what Colby is doing, but I know what a few others are.....
the transmission and pistons are getting way more oil then they need, and in some instances starving the crank bearings
In veiw of the above statement, If you look closely at the CAST IN BLOCK OIL JET ORFICES in the TOP CASE cylinder block, I can see the cylinder walls having to much oil sprayed onto cylinder walls. The oil feed for this cylinder spray is taken from main oil galley. To improve oil pressure I would consider drilling and tapping cylinder block for a smaller orfice jet. This would reduce oil volume being bleed from main oil galley an increase overall oil pressure. The counter balancer shafts are feed from the # 3 main bearing journal
which also supplies oil to the #3 rod journal. So removing the counter balancers, eliminate the front counter balance shaft oil feed totally would also improve oil pressure. The rear counter balancer can only be removed. The oil feed for the rear counter balancer cannot be eliminated because it also feeds oil supply to starter clutch and idler gears.
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posted January 01, 2010 06:10 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 2 Jan 2010 02:13
you would be correct, also the case half trans gallery can be reduced too I am told
The billet shafts from clems have the oil grooves machined into them.
The frt balancer it has nowhere to go, so its deadheaded, and the rear is drastically reduced.
Isn't it coincidental that #3 bearing is also the bearing that is reported to be problematic 99% of the time on stock engines?
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posted January 01, 2010 06:12 PM
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I looked at the bike in passing at prostar and it looked to me like they ran a line up to the top of the clutch housing, by the oil fill cap and then drilled and tapped it. I am guessing it is running a steady stream of fresh oil from the pan up to the top and then dropping it on the plates.
this would hurt power, and hardly any oil woild get to the plates if a billet basket is used
you sure this wasnt an extra crank case vent?
some vent from therem, and some turbo guys with scavenge pumps return the oil from the turbo by dumping it on the clutch basket in this fashion
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posted January 01, 2010 07:04 PM
I would never decrease oil to the pistons, this keeps them cooler. IMO more is better here. in fact I have added extra oiling to my pistons. the balancer mists around oil and this gets on the pistons. when you take out the ballancer you allready have less oil to the pistons and boosted pressure/volume elsewhere. Im unfamiliar with the 14 cases, but on a 12 there are 2 "squirters" which are basically just a jet. they spray 2 pistons with oil. the case has been cast to look like it was supposed to have 4 of these squirters, so i ordered 2 from kawasaki and put them in(drill and tap) when i got rid of the balancer. now all 4 pistons get equal amounts of oil sprayed on them. this was 2 seasons ago. no bearing failures yet, no melted pistons yet
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted January 02, 2010 09:14 PM
Hey Scott,
yeah I thought the same, but some big players plug all 4 piston jets off completely!
Thats drag racing only with a big turbo blowing down on those pistons yet!
All season making over 400 RWHP (or more if the track would hold it!)
I am not stating my opinion to the matter, just what i was told.
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