Acat
Novice Class
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posted December 16, 2009 01:30 PM
Improving shift quality
1-3 are really clunky. 4-6 seem ok. I am going to try to reposition my rear sprocket because the tight versus loose spot is alot. Then I can run a tighter overall chain. Anyone try this? How about a Shift Star upgrade? Bled clutch w/ bike leaned over. This is really a sore spot for me as I have a Suzuki that is a joy to shift. Any suggestions?
  
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Zone Head
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posted December 16, 2009 01:52 PM
I went from a crisp gixxer's shifts to the zx14's shifts. I had the same complaint. I found that after a few thousand miles, and using a top quality full syn oil, the shifting improved. I wouldnt think tiping your bike over to bleed the clutch would help unless the system has been opened for some reason and the clutch wont fully disengage. As for the rear sprocket, I changed my factory sprockets and chain for vortex and ek stuff. The vortex rear sprocket is very true compaired to the stock one, but for your chain to become so loose that it flops around during shifts because of the sprocket not being true then something is wrong..
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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bigdtd
Needs a job
Interceptors
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posted December 16, 2009 02:04 PM
a loose chain will make for poor shifting, i agree with above if you have loose and tight spots there is an issue. rearwheel is not perpendicular most likely unless the sprocket is bent. check your chain tightness, lube and rear wheel alignment. doubt you have anything bent. get your stuff adjusted and your shifting will improve.
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2006 Black ZX-14,6 inches over,16/42, flies out,BMC Street Filter,Brock's Street Meg,Brock's Radial Mount Strap,PClll with Race map,Dynojet LCD w/Techmount, ZX-14 fender eliminator,Pilot Power2CTs,Speedohealer,Pazzo Levers,Cox Radiator Guard, Garmin Nuvi 265WT
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Acat
Novice Class
Posts: 99
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posted December 16, 2009 07:35 PM
I have a 43 vortex, stock chain. Wheel is straight according to marks. Syn oil. Will pull chain off and ck for out of round.
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Bently
Needs a life
2012 14r In Blue and no Mods!
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posted December 16, 2009 07:55 PM
To me that's just how the 14 shifts. niether of mine where ever very smooth but as long as it is not Broke I did not worry about it.
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3000psi and falling
Zone Head
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posted December 16, 2009 08:00 PM
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I have a 43 vortex, stock chain. Wheel is straight according to marks. Syn oil. Will pull chain off and ck for out of round.
When I set up a string alignment rack on my zx14, the string method shows the marks to be off by about 1 and a half lines.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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dcjens
Pro
Wet side of Washington
Posts: 1059
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posted December 16, 2009 08:03 PM
Try loading the shifter as opposed to a full at rest shift. A good map is just that. My shift quality varied with different maps. I've read that this bike's throttle bodies can be syncronized although I've never seen a post about it.
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Acat
Novice Class
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posted December 16, 2009 08:47 PM
The marks can be off that much? Something else to ck......
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3000psi and falling
Zone Head
Posts: 848
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posted December 16, 2009 09:15 PM
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The marks can be off that much? Something else to ck......
Well idk if its the marks on the swingarm or the ones on the axle blocks, but yes something is off on mine. So I made new marks.
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08 ZX14, 2010 Persimmon Red bodywork.
Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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INTIMIDA2OR
Needs a life
RED rider!
Posts: 13081
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posted December 17, 2009 01:02 AM
I 've been using royal purple 20/50 for 10's of thousands of miles and the shifts are like butter at 57,000 +miles.
Even the 1-2 shift can't be heard . The only time I hear a gear engagement is going frome neutral to 1st.
When she was new she was a bit clunky. My dads blue 14 is a tiny bit clunky and uses the same oil.
Mine is like butter 
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'06 Passion Red ZX-14
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BobC
Pro
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posted December 17, 2009 02:49 AM
I agree with Bently's comment "that's just how the 14 shifts" and it was very noticeable when I traded my GSX-R1000K5 and hopped straight onto the Kawasaki.
I think I was trying to change too quickly and the 14 gearbox is that bit slower than the Suzuki, especially noticeable when you change at lower revs. Gearbox design? Internal ratios? who knows but it gets better when you are familiar with the bike and have more miles on it. Of course chain condition and adjustment can make a difference too.
I have never been aware of it at the track.
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Candy Thunder Blue 2006 ZZR1400
Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
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