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posted December 15, 2009 06:57 PM
he called nooby a bone head lol
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eklipse636
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posted December 15, 2009 07:22 PM
Wtf is a bonehead anyway?!
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SteveWFL
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posted December 15, 2009 07:42 PM
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OP put Harley and ZX14 in same post. Fascinating.
steve i have seen you do the same shit lol
not "comparing" the two regarding dyno pull behavior I hope!
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posted December 15, 2009 08:09 PM
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OP put Harley and ZX14 in same post. Fascinating.
steve i have seen you do the same shit lol
not "comparing" the two regarding dyno pull behavior I hope!
not dyno but oil sealing characteristics, which i call bs on lol, its all good
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 12:05 AM
YOU CANT GET A BROCKS MAP IF YOU DONT BUY THE FULL SYSTEM???what part of this cant be understood??I here how smart some of the tuners are and how fast there 8 second 14s are but again not one can tell me how to get the proper map??Funny thing is some love to dyno and run four bikes a day on the dyno then tell me how stupid i am for wanting to do this when i said i think its a good idea then i heard was how im a newb and what i dont know then there back to brocks again and how great brocks pcs are and im sure they are then comes the how i need to sit back and learn from the pros yet again not one response from the pros on how to get a good map for a bike with stock pipes.Some live to argue .The only one that gets this was the shane man with the crazy build,once again for all the super tuners YOU CANT GET A MAP FROM BROCKS IF YOU DONT BUY THE FULL SYSTEM.
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eklipse636
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posted December 16, 2009 12:21 AM
I said YOU CAN GET A MAP! I'm Sure He Would Be more than happy to sell you one!! WHAT PART OF THAT DIDN'T YOU COMPREHEND??
They told you that the proper map wasn't done in a day, it was done during many 1/4 mile passes AND dyno runs.
If you don't want to be called a newb, dont act like one.
There ya go talkin ab brocks pc's again. One more time. His pc's are the same its his maps that are the shit!
I hope that just answered all your questions. Have a great day! 
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posted December 16, 2009 04:07 AM
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YOU CANT GET A BROCKS MAP IF YOU DONT BUY THE FULL SYSTEM???what part of this cant be understood??I here how smart some of the tuners are and how fast there 8 second 14s are but again not one can tell me how to get the proper map??Funny thing is some love to dyno and run four bikes a day on the dyno then tell me how stupid i am for wanting to do this when i said i think its a good idea then i heard was how im a newb and what i dont know then there back to brocks again and how great brocks pcs are and im sure they are then comes the how i need to sit back and learn from the pros yet again not one response from the pros on how to get a good map for a bike with stock pipes.Some live to argue .The only one that gets this was the shane man with the crazy build,once again for all the super tuners YOU CANT GET A MAP FROM BROCKS IF YOU DONT BUY THE FULL SYSTEM.
Actually don't you think what started this was when you said a zx 14 would not make it to 20,000 miles without being on the dyno? which just isn't true. if you have a muzzys map I feel for you and you should head to the dyno.
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posted December 16, 2009 04:27 AM
Brockland.com Police on patrol.
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eklipse636
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posted December 16, 2009 04:34 AM
Or another option for you would be get rid of the muzzy junk and get a brocks pipe.
I'll give you a good example of why a dyno dosent make your bike the fastest.
My bike was stock. Bolted on alienhead from brocks. Didn't really feel any power. (No pc was added at this time) took it to the dyno and my a/f ratio was dead on like 7,000rpm and above. My bike still didn't run good numbers at the track. Mph was shit. J put pc with brocks map and I believe I gained .2 in 1/4. My point, on the dyno the a/6 looked good without the pc, or I guess you could say it seemed to "need" a map closer to stock but come to find out the dyno isn't always correct!
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posted December 16, 2009 09:49 AM
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 09:50 AM
Lol Back to brocks again? can some of you read or do you just like to start crap?? You cant get a good map from brock if you dont buy his full system.I have called brocks 4 different times and i know what they have told me.4 times now.I dont want their pipes i ride 250 miles at a time some days.Bently go back and have someone read for you.I never once said the 14 would not last 20k.Stop the crap.I said my dyno tuner told me that he has seen more than one 14 not make it to 20k because of poor mapping.Have your mom read the thread to you and have her expain what a pc is to you.im done calling brocks done calling muzzy trying to give hundreds of dollars away for a map.Im selling the pc five.
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 09:55 AM
And eklipse You can take a reading lesson too.Go back and have your mom read the thread to you too.Or some more school would help.you just dont sound to bright. I never one time bm brocks as your mom will explain to you that i said his stuff was good.
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posted December 16, 2009 10:15 AM
Brockland.com police on the scene, 10-4
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posted December 16, 2009 10:30 AM
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Lol Back to brocks again? can some of you read or do you just like to start crap?? You cant get a good map from brock if you dont buy his full system.I have called brocks 4 different times and i know what they have told me.4 times now.I dont want their pipes i ride 250 miles at a time some days.Bently go back and have someone read for you.I never once said the 14 would not last 20k.Stop the crap.I said my dyno tuner told me that he has seen more than one 14 not make it to 20k because of poor mapping.Have your mom read the thread to you and have her expain what a pc is to you.im done calling brocks done calling muzzy trying to give hundreds of dollars away for a map.Im selling the pc five.
But if you sell your pc5 then how on earth will your top notch dyno tuner ever work his magic on your POS 14?  just thought i'd stir the pot a little.
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eklipse636
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posted December 16, 2009 11:01 AM
You need help from someone a little more than muzzy or brock man.
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 11:10 AM
Well if i listen to you wheelie wonka the dyno will never work or did your punch drunk brain fail you again??
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posted December 16, 2009 11:52 AM
Brockland.com Police, handcuffs are out. 10-4, suspect resisting
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 12:04 PM
Im done with this thread people are getting serious here.Peace to all.Thanks to some for the info.to the rest hope that aggressive non thinking way works well for you with the rest of your life.
take care wheelie.out for good.
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posted December 16, 2009 12:54 PM
zx14fan, Did you set your TPS on the Power commander upc?? I went to the Power commander site and just used a map from there and it worked perfect....No need for a dyno tune with any of those maps they are real good just look for one with your mods and load it up and set the trottle position. I ran for 21000km with a map from Power commander for slipons it was a muzzy map actually. Now I have BROCK'S Alien Head with his maps the bike has 34000km on her now no issues.
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posted December 16, 2009 12:58 PM
Brockland.com Police, case closed 10-4
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posted December 16, 2009 01:01 PM
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Brockland.com Police, case closed 10-4
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Nuff said....
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zx14fan
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posted December 16, 2009 01:17 PM
Thanks new14 to be honest im not sure what the tps is as im still learning about the 14 and will take all the help i can get.
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posted December 16, 2009 02:05 PM
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Thanks new14 to be honest im not sure what the tps is as im still learning about the 14 and will take all the help i can get.
throttle position sensor.
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posted December 16, 2009 02:06 PM
if your throttle position is off then the map will be off as well, if you had a dynojet lcd you could see your tps all the time 0-100%
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posted December 16, 2009 02:34 PM
Edited By: eklipse636 on 17 Dec 2009 01:34
"And eklipse you can take a reading lesson"
I don't need a fucking reading lesson. I have had a zx14 since 2006 and both of my 14's have made HUNDREDS of passes down the 1/4 mile, with not ONE SINGLE PROBLEM. I never claimed to be the brightest crayon in the crayola box, BUT I guess I'm smart enough to get my 14 to run good, unlike some people on this thread.
O yea, TPS is not just on a 14 mr. Rocket scientist.
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