JDC

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posted November 11, 2009 08:18 AM
Edited By: JDC on 11 Nov 2009 16:19
Cyce logic mods?
Has anyonemodded the Cycle Logic throw out clutch to increase the pressure that it can take?
Mine is slipping noticeably.
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Shane661

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posted November 11, 2009 08:39 AM
They sell arms with more leverage, from what I understand.
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kawasakijockey

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posted November 11, 2009 08:39 AM
Stock horsepower? If quite a bit more horsepower, just replace the bolts with longer ones and add a washer or two. Cycle Logic also makes longer arms for it.
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posted November 11, 2009 02:45 PM
Just talked to Dave from Cycle Logic and they can take care of anything you want done,like arms and more weights for more power. Heres his # (941)809-1234
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posted November 11, 2009 03:19 PM
JDC has a turbo on his bike, running 7lbs of boost I believe.
JDC, are you running full syn in your bike? I have a cycle-logic turbo kit and lock-up on my 14 as well. I haven't got the install finished yet, but I'm going to run castrol bike specific dino oil in it to avoid any clutch issues. I had clutch slippage on my last turbo bike with full syn.
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posted November 11, 2009 03:41 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 11 Nov 2009 23:42
i wouldnt put inferior oil in anything when the solution is simply more weight on the clutch. run the best syn possible, tune the clutch to hold it. look into getting an MTC if the CL cant cut it for a turbo(if mods dont help)
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
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posted November 11, 2009 04:49 PM
Bad,
Yes full synth. So you are going to run straight oil?
I emailed Dave yesterday and am waiting to hear from him.
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posted November 11, 2009 05:25 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 12 Nov 2009 01:27
i tried some dino oil castrol GTX and oh boy was that a fukk-up ... back to the mobile 1 .. i have 2 washers on each bolt and holding 300hp .. i do screw up the 1st inner fiber from slipping the clutch off the line regularly ..
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posted November 11, 2009 05:48 PM
is the inner fiber dry afterwards when you fvck it up?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 11, 2009 05:55 PM
quote: Bad,
Yes full synth. So you are going to run straight oil?
I emailed Dave yesterday and am waiting to hear from him.
Daves shop lost power today, the power lines came down from a wind gust. Im sure youll hear from him tomorrow,hes a very helpfull business man.
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posted November 12, 2009 01:25 AM
Edited By: Bad in Black on 12 Nov 2009 09:27
Yep JC I'm going to run the castrol bike specific dino 10-40. It says its turbo safe on the jug. I had clutch slipping on my last turbo when I tried the valvoline full syn car oil.......being car oil could possibly have been the prob right there, but Its so easy to change oil on the 14 I'm just going to dump it every 2000 miles or so, and oil filter every other change....so I figure the dino will be fine hopefully.
Rob what did the castrol gtx do in your bike?
And I can say Dave at Cycle-Logic is a great guy to do business with, one of the best I've met. He charges very fair prices, backs up his stuff, does what he says, and is always willing to help over the phone. Plus he's a nice guy
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posted November 12, 2009 05:16 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 12 Nov 2009 13:20
quote: is the inner fiber dry afterwards when you fvck it up?
THE whole clutch basket is dry but only the inner fiber is shredded to nothing and only on 1 side ..and that side is the fiber side that touches the 1st steel .. and when i mean shredded i mean grind-ed down to fiber plate surface .. but everything else checks out except the steel mating the 1st inner fiber .. and i've tried removing the chatter rings and it did it with them removed and installed ..
the gtx oil only was in my bike for 4 passes .. caused leaks from places that never leaked .. caused a miss which now has cured itself (scary) .and the gtx came out like water when changed after 4 passes .. and this all happen with-in the 4 passes ..my bike ran great when i got to the track and with-in 4 passes it was broke ... i have used the rotella dino oil before and it was great .. but that castrol liquid engineering is crap and i'll never purchase it again .. and i'm not brand loyal just want what works .. i change my oil around every 20 passes
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posted November 12, 2009 07:13 AM
If im not mistaken, the 14 clutch hub has holes in it similar to the Muzzy modified hubs for the 12. is the inside of the hub also dry?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 12, 2009 08:40 AM
no inner hub is not dry you can see where oil has been.. but there is no stock pile or pools of oil when you tear them down .. and the fibers look dry but do have a oil film over them .. i'm not saying fibers are bone dry .. but they seem too dry for my likeings and i have a high pressure oil relief valve ..
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posted November 12, 2009 09:09 AM
My buddys busa had a similar problem, we ground a tiny bit off of the piece that goes into the trans shaft(the one that pushes on the pressure plate) to let a bit more oil into the hub, and then to the pack. i have that done to my 12 and dads 12 also. it just takes a tiny tiny bit. might be something to look into?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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