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posted October 22, 2009 02:12 PM
Modified zx12 cam chain tensioner - no go
The price of them from the dealer here is $167....
before machining it.
sorry, but I obviously won't be marketing this mod.
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 22, 2009 02:36 PM
 Edited By: kawasakijockey on 22 Oct 2009 22:37
Ron Ayers sells them for $103.85. How do you mod them?
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posted October 22, 2009 03:43 PM
APE . . . . about $60.00 (works bitchen)
Bob
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posted October 22, 2009 03:45 PM
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Ron Ayers sells them for $103.85. How do you mod them?
Machine .120 off the face,(the part that sits against the head)
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posted October 22, 2009 03:59 PM
I want two. I wish someone that has spent some $$ at carpenters would call him and ask how much for a group purchase. Man he does this for his engine kits.
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posted October 22, 2009 05:39 PM
keep checking ebay
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posted October 22, 2009 10:55 PM
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APE . . . . about $60.00 (works bitchen)
Bob
I might just have to go that route Bob ! My 14 just rattled for 4 minutes before it quit rattling. I can't take it no more!
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posted October 22, 2009 11:11 PM
Mine rattles for only last a second or two
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posted October 23, 2009 03:13 AM
Am I missing something?? No one makes a ctt for a 14? Is that why everyone is trying to modify a zx12? Just want to get on the same page as everyone else.
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posted October 23, 2009 03:19 AM
You can get a manual tensioner from APE. You get get a 12R tensioner and modify it to eliminate start up rattle, and it is an automatic tensioner which requires no maintenance.
Simple, yes?
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posted October 23, 2009 03:54 AM
That's simple enough! I missed all that somewhere. I assumed it was a manual cct, not a auto... I know, I know.. I never claimed to be the brightest crayon in the box
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posted October 23, 2009 04:29 AM
CheapCycleParts.com has them for $95.49.
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posted October 23, 2009 05:17 AM
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CheapCycleParts.com has them for $95.49.
Best prce yet. Good Find.
If Everyone that wants one would CALL Bob Carpenter Racing Engines and let him know
just how many 14 owners want this CCT. I called several weeks ago and he said call back
later. Well it later, calling him again today.
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posted October 23, 2009 06:28 AM
I would go with Ape manuel tensioner or stock auto only modifiing sounds too risky good its a no go
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posted October 23, 2009 06:54 AM
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I would go with Ape manuel tensioner or stock auto only modifiing sounds too risky good its a no go
I have one on a old FJ1200. Bob advised not to use a manual CCT on the ZX-14 due to the
cam chain design. His words......not mine. Just repeating what Bob Carpinter Racing
told me on tehphone three weeks ago. And to call back in a few weeks. You really do
need to have "The Touch" with a manual APE CCT. But no problems on the old FJ1200
52,000 Fun miles from a 1986 model. had it 18 years now. I just don't want to have to
worry about does the CCT need me to adjust as I take more long trips on my 14 now that I
have more free time during the summer. :-)
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posted October 23, 2009 07:04 AM
you guys worry to much.. i've got a turbo 14 with the stock CCT and never had an issue with 10,000 miles and 400 passes .. but i have gone thru 3clutches and 20 tires and counting
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posted October 23, 2009 09:03 AM
Too many choices lol!
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posted October 23, 2009 10:15 AM
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I would go with Ape manuel tensioner or stock auto only modifiing sounds too risky good its a no go
Nothing wrong with the modded zx12 tensioner. The only mod is to make it fit correctly not to the mechanism which is superior to the 14's.
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posted October 23, 2009 03:22 PM
No go who cares
I guess "The Touch" would be to tighten in small increments till noise goes away on a manual
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posted October 23, 2009 03:22 PM
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APE . . . . about $60.00 (works bitchen)
Bob
I might just have to go that route Bob ! My 14 just rattled for 4 minutes before it quit rattling. I can't take it no more!
Wow 4 minutes, thats awful. To think I shudder over my second or two of rattle.
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posted October 23, 2009 03:26 PM
Ya 4 minutes sounds wrong like the wrong kind of oil or burnt up viscosity
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posted October 23, 2009 03:57 PM
Yeah the APE one puts a twist in thw cc. cause it doesn't line up even with it... I got a modded 12 tensioner from Bill Cannon and it works flawlessly!!!
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posted October 23, 2009 04:05 PM
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Yeah the APE one puts a twist in thw cc. cause it doesn't line up even with it... I got a modded 12 tensioner from Bill Cannon and it works flawlessly!!!
How much?? web site ??
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posted October 23, 2009 05:14 PM
my ape manual tensioner didn't even fit in the hole....LOL, never mind line up right LOL
seems it fit about as well as my first ATP, and even the second ATP turbo header....
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posted October 24, 2009 06:49 AM
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you guys worry to much.. i've got a turbo 14 with the stock CCT and never had an issue with 10,000 miles and 400 passes .. but i have gone thru 3clutches and 20 tires and counting
4 minutes of rattle, any rattle on new bike is not right. Put a slick on that turbo and see where the weak link in the engine is.
Bob Carpenter and several other engine builders want a stronger cam chain for the 14.
And a different design CCT for the 14.
Have you checked your lob centers lately? 400 passes, I bet you need to degree the cams.
If you have not already done so. If not Don't Worry. Race it until it does break.
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