boxcar
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posted October 19, 2009 02:32 PM
Area P or Brocks?
Been looking into getting a new pipe, I like the twin can look so am really only interested in that. I was looking at Brock's which are rather expensive to go with a dual system. Just had a look at the Area P slip on's and they seem nice but not sure how good they are since I'm still stuck with the stock headers. I don't drag race, only street so max horsepower isn't all important, mostly going for weight loss and hopefully a decent exhaust note while not being too loud. How does the Area P compare to Brocks for quality and is there any map support available from them? Thx for the help.
  
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 02:34 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 22:37
Area P quality is fantastic, and they can build custom requests. Brock's quality is great as well. You are pretty safe with either.
My exhaust is a Brock full header, and Area P custom muffler:
So, I can't suggest one over the other. 
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted October 19, 2009 11:42 PM
+1 on area P !
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Rideharder
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posted October 20, 2009 12:26 AM
Edited By: Rideharder on 20 Oct 2009 08:30
I would make sure that the company used backup gas on the inside of the pipe before they welded it.
So another words out of the two companies which ever one use backup gas that would be my choice..
If both companies used backup gas I would go for lowest price.
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boxcar
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posted October 20, 2009 10:20 AM
Shane, Think it is worth while to put just the slip ones from Area P on with the stock headers? Or would I not really gain anything by doing that other than a different exhaust note?
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Shane661
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posted October 20, 2009 10:22 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 20 Oct 2009 18:22
Well, they will be a lot lighter. I believe you might see something hp-wise at high rpm, since the bike is pretty richly mapped from the factory. I think Area P has dyno charts on their site.
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LOCK 2121
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posted October 20, 2009 01:10 PM
Have Area P can's on now they are built very well , sound good not to loud , if your easy, but at 7000 rpm up they are loud , from a deep growel to a snareley screem .
runing a power comander with them , common sense they flow more, alot more, 2" per pipe hard to get the same flow out of a single pipe.
nice stainless const., fake carbon fiber stick on covering, but it is thick has held up well !
They don't look out of place like the fat factory can's.
as for power don't know never rode a stock 14 traded 2 bikes for it , it will snap the front wheel of the deck at about 2800 rpm all the way to 80 mph , thats good for me , only had 1 chance to top end at 180 it was still climbing fast . but then traffic came about , Area P 's seemed to work fine , have another header to test , but like the stock header/ area p combo
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Shane661
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posted October 20, 2009 01:22 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 20 Oct 2009 21:56
Ummm...I have a couple of Area P mufflers and there is no "fake carbon fiber stick on covering". In fact, they use a very high grade carbon.
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Bently
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posted October 20, 2009 01:54 PM
Shane I love you pipe combo!
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LOCK 2121
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posted October 20, 2009 04:58 PM
Shane I am wrong then , did think they were area p , can't find any name on them , was told by some , tek at a bike shop, anyway they look like area p , but for sure , have a fake wrap, thats fine they are muffler's light weight , will work fine for now.
after I figure out what i want to change, thinking the Brock's way , what ever I DO will be from what some of the people have done here, lot's good info here.
like spending all the time I have just to ride the hell out of the bike , like it he way it is!
after 23 motorcycles in life the 14 is my fav.
Have spare stock header, will prob. cut off "Y" chamber , weld up my own tail sect. ,haven't found exactly the right muffler yet !
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posted October 20, 2009 05:18 PM
do whatever you are looking to gain....looks, sound, or peformance. Ultimately its your bike and you need to do what you would
love for it. Performance wise I would go with a full brocks over the area p. But for looks the area P does look good.
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fish_antlers
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posted October 20, 2009 06:10 PM
there's definitely no fake CF at either brock or areap...
both are great vendors with good products and support..
more about areap...
http://www.bikeland.org/story.php?storyID=50687
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LOCK 2121
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posted October 20, 2009 06:43 PM
Anyone know who make's the fake carbon wrap, can's , the fit finish, stainless fittings are well done , but the stick on fake fiber is a let down.
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posted October 20, 2009 08:02 PM
We only manufacture with 100% pure carbon fiber materials. We don't offer any "wraps". Post a picture of the "fake carbon fiber wrap" and perhaps we can help you figure out who's they are.
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masszx14
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posted October 20, 2009 08:10 PM
But I would put an Area P muffler on it a heartbeat!
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fish_antlers
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posted October 20, 2009 09:06 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 21 Oct 2009 05:07
quote:
We only manufacture with 100% pure carbon fiber materials. We don't offer any "wraps". Post a picture of the "fake carbon fiber wrap" and perhaps we can help you figure out who's they are.
u sure man? I was pretty sure that last time I was by you didn't notice BUT I could see through the crack of the door straight into that sweat shop you run!! There must have been at least 150 chinese infants in there  and from what I could tell they were sorting through a giant pile of what looked like nasty old macdonalds straws ... I could see a group of kids meticulously painting each used dirty straw black, while others were busy weaving them into your "100% pure carbon fiber materials"
fess up!
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posted October 21, 2009 11:58 AM
quote:
u sure man? I was pretty sure that last time I was by you didn't notice BUT I could see through the crack of the door straight into that sweat shop you run!! There must have been at least 150 chinese infants in there and from what I could tell they were sorting through a giant pile of what looked like nasty old macdonalds straws ... I could see a group of kids meticulously painting each used dirty straw black, while others were busy weaving them into your "100% pure carbon fiber materials"
fess up!
That comment right there fish breath "so fits" with some of my comments about you in the interview.....
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fish_antlers
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posted October 21, 2009 07:12 PM
nice!
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