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posted October 19, 2009 10:27 AM
Wow..... Crazy mph! Crazy et!
  
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posted October 19, 2009 11:56 AM
 Edited By: madnessracing on 19 Oct 2009 19:57
Damn Smoking You and Nooby Should share that little secret!! ;-)
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Maxspeed
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posted October 19, 2009 12:06 PM
Great numbers guys . Those are some fantastic numbers especially on motor . I have personally never seen # like these before but anything is possible . With you weighing 160lbs suited and your bike being 62.5 inches . Even with your bike being at 650lbs ,your whp is north of 215whp easily which again is un heard of on a stock motored bike . When is the next time you fellas are heading to the track ? I am not saying I dont believe you . I am just one of those people that dont believe things until I see them . Great numbers either way .
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posted October 19, 2009 12:07 PM
Edited By: Maxspeed on 19 Oct 2009 20:09
14nooby where you the green 14 that I raced in dland ???????I also raced 2 black 14s down there as well. I was the only orange and black 08 hayabusa racing .
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 12:13 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 20:16
I think I have found the "secret" to the above normal mph....and it's not crazy clocks, either.
I don't think it is 08-09 model changes, either.
No foul play, either.
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kaw-rick
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posted October 19, 2009 12:36 PM
quote:
I think I have found the "secret" to the above normal mph....and it's not crazy clocks, either.
I don't think it is 08-09 model changes, either.
No foul play, either.
Whats the secret?
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14nooby
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posted October 19, 2009 12:38 PM
Maxspeed, no I was not in Deland but my 14 is green.
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posted October 19, 2009 12:39 PM
Shane, fill me in what's the secret?
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Maxspeed
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posted October 19, 2009 12:44 PM
nitrous ?????? lol...j/k how long is your bike nooby ?
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 12:46 PM
Well, it's just my theory. Remember, I am into Land Speed Racing...so mph is kind of my hobby, so to speak. I'm just trying to make it all add up...and see if it really is due to differences in the model years.
All that being said, I could be totally wrong.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted October 19, 2009 12:51 PM
I know for sure smokin has no Nos hooked up. I was out of town or I would have been there myself to see it.
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 12:58 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 21:07
First, using yesterday's weather data, we can calculate the air density:
(Above data from around 1 pm)
Here is DA calculator, that will also link to weather data for many tracks:
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php?elevationcorrect=1500&et=9.043&mph=152&correctetmph=Correct+ET+and+MPH
Next, we can take a quick look at the track layout of BMP:
Note the track orientation, and that the track seems to run north to south.
Smokin stated that there was a tailwind shifting to crosswind. Now, I know from LSR experience that tail/cross winds can have strange effects on mph. One pass you may be down a mph, the next you could gain a few.
Looking at the winds in Bradenton yesterday afternoon:
Up to 20 mph winds out of the North. Combine this with a DA of under 400 feet, and it could make for some great mph...and excellent motor power.
This is my theory, in the name of science. Of course if you go back out and run those mph #'s again with still air...well, my theory is blown to hell.
Shane
PS. When my bike went 211 at Loring it did it with a big tailwind. There is no way on earth I could have done it otherwise. So, I have seen the benefits first hand.
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KZScott
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posted October 19, 2009 01:11 PM
im finding it very hard to believe that those are stock motors running NA... huge congrats if thats the case. you guys are just flat out flying on the 14s.
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posted October 19, 2009 01:14 PM
Shane, seems very accurate. I have never ran like that either until yesterday. On the other hand I have never ran in cool air until yesterday. I highly doubt my bike will ever go any faster than yesterday in stock form. But hey, I sure do have a nice looking slip to talk about.
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 01:14 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 21:15
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im finding it very hard to believe that those are stock motors running NA... huge congrats if thats the case. you guys are just flat out flying on the 14s.
They are, Scott. I've seen 14's run these ET numbers before (on a cold day). I'm just fat and slow. 
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14nooby
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posted October 19, 2009 01:15 PM
Maxspeed I'm at 66"
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Obba
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posted October 19, 2009 01:17 PM
Congrats on the numbers guys!
Shane - Sherllock Holmes said : "After eliminating the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, is the truth".
Remember Shane, Smokin says that other riders on the day weren't seeing anything different.
I'm not knocking the numbers - they do seem high - even Smokin and Nooby - acknowledge they are 'surprisingly' high. But they both got em, same track, same day.
As you mentioned, consistency is another way to go, but if the conditions on the day were in their favour, then that's that.
Isn't everyone looking for the best alt, temp and densitiy?
On the day, they got the tickets!
Just focus on your own numbers and get into the 8's consistently.
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Shane661
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posted October 19, 2009 01:18 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 21:25
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Shane, seems very accurate. I have never ran like that either until yesterday. On the other hand I have never ran in cool air until yesterday. I highly doubt my bike will ever go any faster than yesterday in stock form. But hey, I sure do have a nice looking slip to talk about.
Well, I think you could see equal or better the ET's when it gets colder. But the mph...that will be a tough act to follow. Again, much respect for you guys...you really ride the wheels off of those bikes. 
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posted October 19, 2009 01:24 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 22:40
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Just focus on your own numbers and get into the 8's consistently.
Obba, I think you may be missing the point. If my bike can't run the same #'s as these guys (not within 5 mph of 14nooby within the 1/8th!) that is a problem to me. I want to find out why. Whether it is my bike, my tune, my riding...whatever. If my bike is capable of a 133 mph 1/8th in still air...I damn sure want to know it! If track conditions led to the big mph...well, fair enough...I think it's awesome. 14Nooby may have the fastest 1/8th mile mph ever recorded on a stock motor...and the bottom line is you get the good days with the bad...but you don't get a damn thing if you don't show up.
There is talk of the 08-09 being faster than the 06-07...well, if that is true I want to know why. The only way to learn is to research data and apply it.
In this case, since my other hobby is LSR, I have seen some strange wind effects on my mph #'s. I think that may apply here. Now, if I'm wrong...I'm wrong. But I think everyone can agree that the mph #'s are through the roof...and I think we all would like to know how they are possible.
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posted October 19, 2009 01:26 PM
Our corrected DA down in south Louisiana last Friday night was -200!!!! Too bad I was stuck at work, I missed out big time.
Great runs guys!! That's laying it down for sure. I need to get yall on my 69" wheelbase 14. I've been 1.33 60', I bet yall can get 1.30 with yall weight.
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posted October 19, 2009 01:43 PM
I really would just like to race these two guys . You both are on your "A" game . I have been searching for some fast 14s to run . No money involved just some fun runs . Is it safe to say these are the fastest stock motored 14s in the US??????
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posted October 19, 2009 01:56 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Oct 2009 21:57
quote:
I really would just like to race these two guys . You both are on your "A" game . I have been searching for some fast 14s to run . No money involved just some fun runs . Is it safe to say these are the fastest stock motored 14s in the US??????
Is it safe to say that you are trolling for a stock motor bike when your motor is either built or running spray?
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kawasakijockey
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posted October 19, 2009 01:57 PM
quote:
I really would just like to race these two guys . You both are on your "A" game . I have been searching for some fast 14s to run . No money involved just some fun runs . Is it safe to say these are the fastest stock motored 14s in the US??????
But from what we have read about you, your motor is not stock. Why race stock engines?
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posted October 19, 2009 02:36 PM
Busa why don't you come to valdosta ga for the ama. Fri night is test and tune. A guy from tallahassee will more than likely be there. He's prob 6'1" maybe 160-170 he will run ya for fun!
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posted October 19, 2009 02:59 PM
Shane DA is pretty close to what i got ... I had a few different numbers to put in than his .. Temps were closer to 70 71 after 12:00 and humdity was 54% .. The winds did gust higher times but i would say it was on Avg around 10 MPH most of the day ..The wind did change around 12:00 to a bit of a cross wind , some guys say they were getting blow across the lanes .. I didn't have that problem on any of my runs ...Only problem i had and still have is i got sun burned on my face really bad ..So bad i had headache and chills later that night ..
The DA was going to be good and we all knew that , That's why we went on Sunday !! .My first post made that clear .. We don't get many days in FL where the air is this good ... This coming week we will be back up to 88 deg with sky high humiditys so i'm sure the numbers will be lower ..
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