kawasakijockey
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posted September 07, 2009 07:14 AM
Muzzy nitrous kit question.
I may have asked in the past but have forgotten. With the 30hp jet (real 24hp) installed, how much mph and time are you guys picking up?
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8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
  
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posted September 07, 2009 01:06 PM
are you spraying in 1st or 2nd?
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kawasakijockey
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posted September 07, 2009 02:41 PM
2nd. I picked up 6 mph and was curious how that compares to what others are getting.
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8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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posted September 07, 2009 03:29 PM
that sounds about right for 24HP
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BLK ICE
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posted September 08, 2009 05:06 AM
 Edited By: BLK ICE on 8 Sep 2009 13:06
Do I need to install stiffer valve springs for a 30 to 40 rwhp shot with adams spray bar ramping up from 20% over 2sec from WOT?(300lb rider 16/45 gear) ?
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posted September 08, 2009 08:15 AM
Need ? good insurance YES!
No need to ramp a 40 hp hit that long. maybe if you have it in the throttle AND lock in first gear. What is your wheelbase? At your weight I'll bet you can spray 40 before second if you have 4-6 in of extentions. Be safe and back into whatever your setup will take.
20% of 40 hp is 8hp and 2 seconds is a long time on the track.
IMO that's uneccessary complication and wear on parts.
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BLK ICE
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posted September 08, 2009 09:55 AM
65" soon to be 67" wb. and yes, I want it to start at full throttle in first gear.
" uneccessary complication and wear on parts"
Please explain, I was thinking that is would be easier on parts than a full 40 shot in first gear. I plan on using gearing to get me moving off the line and have the 8hp or so help with my 60' and before the 330' i would be at full 40 shot and rolling. I am just buying parts now and need all the help I can get.
kawasakijockey, I hope this isn't thread jacking. I think it is kind of on the same subject.?
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06redzx14
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posted September 08, 2009 10:17 AM
20% is too low the bike would nose over. I'm using 16s in my adam's bar set at .5 seconds delay 40% initial with 1.5 seconds build. 66" 240 suited. ran a best this weekend of 9.22 with a 1.57 60'
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kaw-rick
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posted September 08, 2009 10:28 AM
u can run a 40 dry easy, no need for mods. just run good gas, put your power-commander up a couple bars on the high side. your done. spray it down.
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BLK ICE
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posted September 08, 2009 10:36 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 8 Sep 2009 18:51
06redzx14,
what gearing are you running? Thanks for the feed back!
Congrats on your best run!
kaw-rick,
what gas? I would like to use 93 pump, but I will buy race gas if I need to. Thanks for the feed back!
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06redzx14
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posted September 08, 2009 10:46 AM
16/44 mine seemed to respond better shifting at 10.5 according to the tach
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kaw-rick
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posted September 08, 2009 10:51 AM
i use 110 octane.
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BLK ICE
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posted September 08, 2009 10:55 AM
06redzx14,
what gas do you use?
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posted September 08, 2009 11:06 AM
Is anyone adjusting timing for a dry 40 shot, if so, how much?
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06redzx14
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posted September 08, 2009 11:17 AM
93 no timing pulled
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posted September 08, 2009 11:22 AM
.36 jet got me 42HP i have mine starting at 40% ramping to 100% in 1.5 i want to bee hitting it with everything i can as fast as i can to take advantage of it for the beast ET possible i use a mix of 110 and 91 when i spray
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posted September 08, 2009 11:23 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 8 Sep 2009 19:24
06redzx14,
what fuel adjustments did you make or did you have it custom mapped?
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kawasakijockey
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posted September 08, 2009 12:07 PM
quote:
65" soon to be 67" wb. and yes, I want it to start at full throttle in first gear.
" uneccessary complication and wear on parts"
Please explain, I was thinking that is would be easier on parts than a full 40 shot in first gear. I plan on using gearing to get me moving off the line and have the 8hp or so help with my 60' and before the 330' i would be at full 40 shot and rolling. I am just buying parts now and need all the help I can get.
kawasakijockey, I hope this isn't thread jacking. I think it is kind of on the same subject.?
No worries. It is all still a nitrous discussion.
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9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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06redzx14
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posted September 08, 2009 12:11 PM
i added 24% to 90 and 100 percent from 5500+ my custom tune had 20 for the values of 90 and 100 from 5500 + but it was real fat up top 11-1 11.5
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BLK ICE
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posted September 08, 2009 01:20 PM
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i added 24% to 90 and 100 percent from 5500+ my custom tune had 20 for the values of 90 and 100 from 5500 + but it was real fat up top 11-1 11.5
I am confused, by adding 4% from 90% to100% throtle position would that not make it even fatter( richer) than the custom map?
By the way, Thanks for sharing info. thats what makes this site great!
I would like to use my brocks track map and just add fuel to get 11.5-1 or 12-1 a/f ratio. Does anyone think this is a bad idea (93 pump)? If so, How would you set it up?
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posted September 08, 2009 01:33 PM
01smokes,
What fuel adjustments did you make? And did you start with a Brocks track map as your base?
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kawasakijockey
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posted September 08, 2009 01:50 PM
I know you want info on the 40 shot but I use a track map and added 12% to it for the 30 shot. A single jet 40hp should require 15-18% fuel added to the track map depending on the ambient temperature.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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06redzx14
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posted September 08, 2009 01:54 PM
the values on the custom map were all "20"s. meaning it said 20 all the way down the map.
i added +24 to the existing values on the street map for the map i'm using now
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kawasakijockey
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posted September 08, 2009 02:30 PM
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the values on the custom map were all "20"s. meaning it said 20 all the way down the map.
i added +24 to the existing values on the street map for the map i'm using now
What Rob has done here is the same as adding 22% to a track map. Remember that this was for a spray bar and not a fogger.
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8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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posted September 08, 2009 03:24 PM
Edited By: 01smokes on 9 Sep 2009 03:18
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01smokes,
What fuel adjustments did you make? And did you start with a Brocks track map as your base?
its a custom tune ill post up my motor map and my n20 map as soon as i get to my lap top
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