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posted September 06, 2009 11:42 AM
ZX10R wheels Vs ZX14 wheels on a ZX14!!
Ok I raced the bike on april with stock wheels on the 14 then I went back to the strip this last weekend with both front and rear 07 10r wheels and here's the difference!!
with stock wheels i went 9.31@147.92mph
with 10r wheels 9.18@148.49mph
The 2 slips together to see the difference!
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posted September 06, 2009 11:49 AM
Do you know if the stock wider ZX10 front rotors will fit in the stock ZX14 front brake caliper ?.
So you showing better with the 10 wheels
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posted September 06, 2009 11:55 AM
They fit perfect! All I had to do is put the front 14 rotors on the 10r wheels!!
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posted September 06, 2009 12:14 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 6 Sep 2009 21:06
That's very cool. Did you weigh them, by chance?
I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'd be surprised if the difference was only due to the wheels. Maybe weather, track conditions, or some other factors? I don't think I have seen .13 from my carbon wheels alone...maybe .10 (at most) and they are about as light as you can get.
Any other differences? Great to hear that they are a direct swap! For some reason I thought they weren't!
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posted September 06, 2009 01:04 PM
Edited By: ninjaboy311 on 6 Sep 2009 21:06
Thanks for showing the comparison, but the difference in ET's came from your quicker 60' times, which really have nothing to do with your wheels.
If you would have had a 1.52 60' with the ZX-14 wheels, you would have went 9.19-9.21.
Every number better at the 60' mark is double the number at the 1/4 mile.
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posted September 06, 2009 01:58 PM
Nice ! I didn't know the 10R wheels fit with just swapping the rotors ! 
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posted September 06, 2009 02:31 PM
Only the front is a direct swap. I had it on my 14 last summer.
The rear on the zx10 is completely different- axle size, spacers,
brake rotor, brake caliper, brake hanger etc.
Here's the one I had. Sold it on someone here a few months ago.
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posted September 06, 2009 03:19 PM
So, what did it take to fit the rear 10R wheel??
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posted September 06, 2009 03:23 PM
I want to see a pic of that zx10 rear wheel set up too!
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posted September 06, 2009 03:23 PM
I think ninjaboy is right about the 60ft maybe im getting more aggressive on the clutch than before! and a few of you guys Im still a newbie and learning how to drag race the bike since I have been doing for a bit over a year!! The 10r front wheel weights almost 3lbs less than the 14 but I didnt have a chance to weight the rear but I can feel there is a difference for sure!
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posted September 06, 2009 03:28 PM
quote:
I think ninjaboy is right about the 60ft maybe im getting more aggressive on the clutch than before! and a few of you guys Im still a newbie and learning how to drag race the bike since I have been doing for a bit over a year!! The 10r front wheel weights almost 3lbs less than the 14 but I didnt have a chance to weight the rear but I can feel there is a difference for sure!
Cool ... Can you give us all the info on how you installed the zx10 rear wheel .... This would be a great help to the members .... 
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posted September 06, 2009 03:37 PM
quote:
That's very cool. Did you weigh them, by chance?
I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'd be surprised if the difference was only due to the wheels. Maybe weather, track conditions, or some other factors? I don't think I have seen .13 from my carbon wheels alone...maybe .10 (at most) and they are about as light as you can get.
Any other differences? Great to hear that they are a direct swap! For some reason I thought they weren't!
Shane
I think you're right maybe the weather and track conditions helped me out but my 60 was a lot better than before too!! Now the front wheel is a direct swap all you need to do is put the 14 brake discs on the 10r wheel and bolt it on! On the rear wheel I had to make some washers and axle adjuster blocks! you can't bolt the 14r brake disc on the 10r wheel so you have to use the 10r and still use it the only problem is the caliper on the 14 grabs only about 40 percent of the 10r disc but i think is better since there is less friction and we hardly use the rear brake at the track.
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posted September 06, 2009 03:40 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 6 Sep 2009 23:41
I'll trade a gsxr1000 rear wheel conversion pic
for your zx10 rear wheel conversion pic!!!
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posted September 06, 2009 03:41 PM
quote:
I think ninjaboy is right about the 60ft maybe im getting more aggressive on the clutch than before! and a few of you guys Im still a newbie and learning how to drag race the bike since I have been doing for a bit over a year!! The 10r front wheel weights almost 3lbs less than the 14 but I didnt have a chance to weight the rear but I can feel there is a difference for sure!
I will take it a part and describe everything for you guys!! Either way I have to do it since im selling the bike and the wheels with everything will be for sale too.
here are some pics I took with the 10r wheels on the bike!
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posted September 06, 2009 03:45 PM
You use zx10 extesions on the zx14 swingarm to match the different axle size, right?
You could have used a zx10 brake caliper and brake hanger for a complete swap.
Looks good!
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posted September 06, 2009 03:54 PM
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You use zx10 extesions on the zx14 swingarm to match the different axle size, right?
You could have used a zx10 brake caliper and brake hanger for a complete swap.
Looks good!
Thanks!! and No I didnt use the zx10 extensions but the axle adjusters are the same exact size as the 10r axle.
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posted September 06, 2009 04:11 PM
Is there a rim that is lighter than the 14 rim that bolts directly up?
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posted September 06, 2009 04:14 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Sep 2009 00:15
12R..it's in my thread.
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posted September 06, 2009 04:23 PM
Thanks shane. U'd think by now I'd read your thread front to back. Too bad we can't make a search button just on your thread!
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posted September 06, 2009 04:36 PM
quote:
Thanks shane. U'd think by now I'd read your thread front to back. Too bad we can't make a search button just on your thread!
The overall weight difference is a couple of pounds with the 12R rotor on the 12R wheel vs. the oem 14 setup.
If you switch to a lighter tire at the same time, you could be looking at 5 lbs. total.
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posted September 06, 2009 04:49 PM
I want another rear wheel to put a drag tire on and I can put a good street tire on my fact wheel so I won't wear tires out so fast on the road. I'd be money ahead instead of buying shinko usoft's all the time.
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posted September 06, 2009 05:08 PM
If any of the zx10 extensions can be fit on the zx14 swingarm
this swap wouldn't be complicated at all- you will be able to
use the axle and the whole rear wheel assembly from the 10.
Well... other than making sure the wheel is centered properly
you wouldn't have any other fitment issues.
You would just need spacers machined which is easy once the
measurements are taken.
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posted January 30, 2010 12:37 PM
Edited By: SixSixoh6 on 30 Jan 2010 20:42
resurecting a thread from the dead...could possibly get a set of 04 zx10 rollers (front & Rear) would the front still fit even though its earlier than the 08 model?? also what i gathered from this thread is..
the zx10 front wheel will bolt up perfectly with the use of the zx14 rotors.
the rear wheel will need the use of zx10 axle blocks, axle, and rotor.
correct?
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posted January 30, 2010 03:27 PM
quote:
resurecting a thread from the dead...could possibly get a set of 04 zx10 rollers (front & Rear) would the front still fit even though its earlier than the 08 model?? also what i gathered from this thread is..
the zx10 front wheel will bolt up perfectly with the use of the zx14 rotors.
the rear wheel will need the use of zx10 axle blocks, axle, and rotor.
correct?
The 06 ZX10 are the same looking also just wider than the 14 rotors good to know they will fit
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