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posted October 31, 2011 02:38 PM        Edited By: BLK ICE on 31 Oct 2011 22:39
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if you don't have a tiger tail it will rub a hole in the plastic, move the ecu if you leave the plastic


man i forgot it did happened already, tiger tails look kinda ugly for a street ride but I'm thinking about the license plate mod, i got it lowered at the middle hole but will it be any gains for the extra 1.5''?

Not if it is rubbing now. Post a picture of the bike so we can see how it is setting now. When strapped tight, you may be able to lower it some more.
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posted October 31, 2011 02:45 PM        
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if you don't have a tiger tail it will rub a hole in the plastic, move the ecu if you leave the plastic


man i forgot it did happened already, tiger tails look kinda ugly for a street ride but I'm thinking about the license plate mod, i got it lowered at the middle hole but will it be any gains for the extra 1.5''?


Can't hardly see a tiger under tail, looks fine on a street bike spend 15.00 to powder coat it black and you can't even see it

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posted October 31, 2011 03:05 PM        Edited By: CraZX14 on 31 Oct 2011 23:07
All this made me go back and look up my very first pass on the 14 - bone stock off the showroom floor and the only other time I'd had a bike on the drag strip before was an old Vmax that I took out one time. So with no mods and no seat time, I baselined a tortoise-like 10.75 @ 140 mph. With full exhaust, PCIII with Brock's map, lowered on both ends, extended 6", -1 front sprocket, and removed secondaries, I've now run a best of 9.27@144....picked up only 4 mph between those runs, but dropped almost 1.5 seconds e.t. Before the gear change and removal of secondaries, my best was 9.32@148 - so I'm not convinced that the gear change and secondary removal were really worth it - still baffled where my mph went. But the main point is (in my opinion) the single best mod you can make is definitely seat time.
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BLK ICE


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posted October 31, 2011 03:27 PM        
Just bolt-ons and race gas. (no power adders,N/A stockmotor) I have reduced my 1/8 E/T by 1.9 sec. from my first time at track. WOW. mods and seat time did it for me.
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posted October 31, 2011 03:28 PM        Edited By: joel787 on 31 Oct 2011 23:32
1.5'' front and rear



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posted October 31, 2011 03:51 PM        Edited By: joel787 on 31 Oct 2011 23:51
been thinking about getting one of these.. do they work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-08-09-10-11-Kawasaki-ZX1400-Ninja-ZX-14-Dynojet-Quick-Shifter-/220875938106?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item336d3b593a#ht_1800wt_869
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posted October 31, 2011 04:35 PM        
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been thinking about getting one of these.. do they work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-08-09-10-11-Kawasaki-ZX1400-Ninja-ZX-14-Dynojet-Quick-Shifter-/220875938106?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item336d3b593a#ht_1800wt_869


Just put an air shifter and a kill box from Cycle Tek. Cheap and definitely a great setup for the dragstrip.
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posted October 31, 2011 05:08 PM        
Man that bike looks high.
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posted October 31, 2011 05:42 PM        Edited By: BLK ICE on 1 Nov 2011 01:48
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been thinking about getting one of these.. do they work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-08-09-10-11-Kawasaki-ZX1400-Ninja-ZX-14-Dynojet-Quick-Shifter-/220875938106?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item336d3b593a#ht_1800wt_869

I use a Dynojet quickshifter as my kill when airshifting at the track and for footshifting on the street. It has worked flawlessly for over 2 years. However, it takes some effort to set-up.

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posted November 01, 2011 01:18 AM        
Switching to E85 is an easy switch if it's available in your area. I went from an average mph of 144 to 147 when I went to E85. WHen I switched to 46 mm throttle bodies, mph went to 149/150. This my first season of drag racing. Going from basically stock, to lowered in back and strapped in front, E85, 46 mm throttle bodies, SMEG and PCV, and stretched about 7 1/2, I'm down to a 9.17 at 149 for my best run. Not great. My best at stock wheel base was 9.65 at 149. Best 60' stock was a 1.6 ish and with stretch, it's down to a 1.46. Still not great, but better. Still foot shifting. Of course, seat time over the summer made a big difference. Watching videos, I STILL can't make myself get to WOT fast enough.
1/8 mile was about 115 average and went to 118/119 with E85, then to 121/122 with 46 mm throttle bodies.
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posted November 01, 2011 09:15 AM        
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Switching to E85 is an easy switch if it's available in your area. I went from an average mph of 144 to 147 when I went to E85. WHen I switched to 46 mm throttle bodies, mph went to 149/150. This my first season of drag racing. Going from basically stock, to lowered in back and strapped in front, E85, 46 mm throttle bodies, SMEG and PCV, and stretched about 7 1/2, I'm down to a 9.17 at 149 for my best run. Not great. My best at stock wheel base was 9.65 at 149. Best 60' stock was a 1.6 ish and with stretch, it's down to a 1.46. Still not great, but better. Still foot shifting. Of course, seat time over the summer made a big difference. Watching videos, I STILL can't make myself get to WOT fast enough.
1/8 mile was about 115 average and went to 118/119 with E85, then to 121/122 with 46 mm throttle bodies.

Great info, thanks for the post.
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posted November 01, 2011 01:49 PM        
How do you switch to E85 easily?

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posted November 01, 2011 08:21 PM        
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How do you switch to E85 easily?


i guess just some remapping and u get an easy 5 extra hp

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posted November 02, 2011 10:12 AM        
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How do you switch to E85 easily?

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I put on an Auto Tune with the PCV and started by adding about 30 to my entire map. I let the Auto Tune work a bit and it seems to have done pretty good. I don't have a data logger so I can't be sure, but I kept adding after each run at the Maxton Mile. It didn't slow it down any and I ended up with a top speed of 197.xxx When I had it on a dyno, it was pretty fat up top which left it at 170 HP. I don't mind that on a dyno when it works well at the track. I just switch from unleaded for normal riding to E85 for the track.
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posted November 04, 2011 05:07 PM        
My basic "experience" with mods pretty much goes as follows but, I think me just getting used to the bike from going from a CBR1100XX to this accounts for a lot as well.

Best pass as I got the bike (PCIII mapped, Brocks full system, 20" ti can, 16/41, stock tires, stock height and wheelbase, foot shifting yada yada yads) was a 10.20@143mph.

Then I strapped it and got high 9.80's.

I then lowered the forks by .75" and 1.5" in the back and replaced the tires with PRII's, and changed the gearing to 16/40 and have gotten it down to a best of a 9.61@151mph, on a 1.63 60'.

I weigh 195 in street clothes.

But,,,,,,,,,,,,, the inevitable But,,,,,,,

I went to the track 3 weeks ago after not racing since Feb' and I only managed 1 semi clean pass out of 2 chances. I went 9.70 @ 145. Where did my mph go? I blame it on bad air and bad riding. Oh, I forgot, that 9.70 pass was my first with a quickshifter.
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posted November 04, 2011 06:29 PM        
Beondwacko,
Nice progress. I think you should get a few more clean passes before concluding something is wrong.

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posted November 05, 2011 04:23 AM        
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Nice progress. I think you should get a few more clean passes before concluding something is wrong.



I agree with that statement.

I'm feeling that I was "rusty" more than anything else. My short time was a 1.7(last track event I was mid 1.6's all day) and that's pretty hard to overcome on the far end for a "good run".

I get more opportunities to get to the track in the winter months than any other time of year. I am hopeful that I'll be able to fine tune my riding some more and attend a couple of elimination events this year. Work always comes first(family business) and that cuts into my play time.
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posted November 06, 2011 07:36 AM        
I am wondering about one thing though.

That last "event" I was at in Feb', the bike was running pretty consistent 9.60's, my 60' times were pretty much all in the 1.6's, and I must have made almost 15 passes that day. Except for the first couple of passes, my mph seemed pretty high considering the ET.

151.3 mph on a 9.64 seems odd. 6.3 in the 1/8 @ 118.5 mph. I guess the bike liked the air that day because that seems too fast on the far end. I'm no flyweight either,,, about 220ish with leathers and helmet.
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