quote:My current setup lost me about .8 second compared to completely stock. I think I could probably lose another 1.0 second or so by having Smokin be the rider. That could get rather costly, however.
What is your current set-up?
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quote:Rotating weight helps too....lighter tires...lighter wheels....removing one front rotor.
Getting tucked in helps aerodynamics too which also helps some. Removing the mirrors reduced drag, as well as wearing tightly fitted jackets and pants instead of bulky jackets and pants that could flap in the wind and create drag.
Biggest increase I saw was losing body weight. Never excercised, just eating smaller portions, and no soft drinks, not even diet drinks. Lost 20 lbs in the process over a few months last year.
What change in e/t did the 20lb give you?
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quote:The gains with longer wheelbase are eventually negated by loss of grip.
The gains with lowering the gearing are offset by the time taken to change gear, especially when footshifting.
So it's not just about changing the set-up, it's more about optimising it.
The best advice when setting up the bike is to change just one thing at a time. That way you can better see what actually works.
The biggest gains I got were from lowering and strapping the bike.
What e/t improvement did lowering and strapping the bike give you. (gear? weight? stock motor?)
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posted August 22, 2009 11:34 PM
Edited By: BobC on 23 Aug 2009 07:38
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What e/t improvement did lowering and strapping the bike give you. (gear? weight? stock motor?)
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I reckon 2 or 3 tenths on a stock wheelbase, you can launch much harder and keep the front down.
Gearing was 17/40 as I was set up for a top speed run, my weight is around 190lbs without leathers, motor is stock internals plus pipe and PC, wheelbase (as mentioned) is stock and I was foot shifting. best ET 9.84 secs.
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posted August 23, 2009 10:39 AM
The hole elbow thing is funny ..Ricks and Shanes doesn't look to high or to funny .. I have seen some with their elbow so high it looks like a chicken trying to take off and we all know chickens can't fly .. I guess i'm not cool because i keep mine down ...
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posted August 23, 2009 12:47 PM
it helped me when i started. i was improvement because i wasn't getting the throttle open completely. it's all preference. people do like dumb when they have the elbow way up. i have seen guys that leave with BOTH elbows way up. that's a full blown chicken launch.
posted August 23, 2009 01:35 PM
Edited By: smokehouse4444 on 23 Aug 2009 21:45
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quote:My current setup lost me about .8 second compared to completely stock. I think I could probably lose another 1.0 second or so by having Smokin be the rider. That could get rather costly, however.
What is your current set-up?
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I think BobC is correct. You should do one thing at a time and monitor what each does. I was usually having a couple of things done at one time, unfortunately. My current set-up is brocks smeg full exhaust, pc w/ custom tune, flies out, BMC filter, 16t sprocket, middle hole in the back, strapped in the front, catalyst drag seat, stock wheelbase. It is a difficult bike to launch, attested to by many friends who have been drag racing for decades. Most say I do pretty well with my set-up, at my height, weight, and experience. I am about to stretch it a bit, which I think will help tremendously.
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posted August 23, 2009 01:42 PM
To be honest, I think the one thing that probably improved my time the most was strapping it. Halvefast got all over me about it, explaining that it wasn't just lowering the front, it was compressing the shocks, which were flinging the front up at launch as my weight was thrown towards the rear. I bet I lost at least .3 just from the straps, and maybe more.
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posted November 19, 2010 04:56 PM
What E/T improvements have been gained by lite weight wheels in the 1/8 and the 1/4?
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posted November 19, 2010 05:05 PM
on my buddies Busa he dropped roughly 25lbs off the bike and 25 lbs off him self and he gained roughly .18 to .20 on average maybe alittle more maybe alittle less. 7 1/2 lbs of that was wheels as well.
posted November 19, 2010 05:52 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 20 Nov 2010 01:53
quote:on my buddies Busa he dropped roughly 25lbs off the bike and 25 lbs off him self and he gained roughly .18 to .20 on average maybe alittle more maybe alittle less. 7 1/2 lbs of that was wheels as well.
Bently,
Was that in the 1/8 or 1/4? Good info. Thanks.
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posted November 19, 2010 08:14 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 20 Nov 2010 04:36
Has anyone seen improvement in E/T with BST's, ZX10 wheels, lighter chain and sprockets, and/or reduction in any rotating weight at all in the 1/8 and/or 1/4 mile alone? (Brock's Performance ,OSR, Vortex, EK Chains, anyone?) If so, what was the improvement in the 1/8 and what in the 1/4 with what Mods done to the ZX14 before the reduction of rotating weight? Was the rider's weight and performance the same before and after the reduction in rotating weight?
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posted October 29, 2011 08:41 AM
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What Mods have made you faster?
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posted October 29, 2011 12:42 PM
Edited By: joel787 on 29 Oct 2011 20:43
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Here are some things that I have heard that may work:
.10 for every inch lower and .10 per inch longer (if you are able to apply the extra power these mods allow.)
.10 for each 25-30 unsprung lb. reduced.
1 mph for 3lbs of rear tire pressure increase (without spinning of course.)
.15 using fresh mr9 over pump gas.
What do you guys think of these, and what other E/T lowering mods or tricks do you know?
interesting post, if i go 3'' lowered at the back and strapped plus my elbow all the way up u say i could get at least 0.1?
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posted October 29, 2011 01:26 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 29 Oct 2011 21:27
If you lower the bike 3" and strap it you should be able to get at least .1 out of it.
Elbow has nothing to do with it.
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posted October 31, 2011 07:56 AM
Ordered my strap, still debating if i wanna go 3"at the back not trying to break anything if it goes up would it make any diference ?
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posted October 31, 2011 11:57 AM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 31 Oct 2011 20:00
quote:Ordered my strap, still debating if i wanna go 3"at the back not trying to break anything if it goes up would it make any diference ?
I would lower it 2-2.5 in the rear to start. Use screw type lowering links, they are much more tuneable and easy to adjust. you will also need a modified oil pan for more ground clearance.
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quote:if you don't have a tiger tail it will rub a hole in the plastic, move the ecu if you leave the plastic
man i forgot it did happened already, tiger tails look kinda ugly for a street ride but I'm thinking about the license plate mod, i got it lowered at the middle hole but will it be any gains for the extra 1.5''?
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