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posted August 20, 2009 08:04 PM
What Mods improve 1/8 and/or 1/4 mile ZX14 E/Ts
What Mods improve 1/8 and/or 1/4 mile ZX14 E/Ts
Please include:
E/T improvement per mod,
This is by no means a scientific study, just trying to compile a list of what works and how well.
(If anyone disagrees with anyone’s estimates please explain why.)
Here are some things that I have heard that may work:
.10 for every inch lower and .10 per inch longer (if you are able to apply the extra power these mods allow.)
.10 for each 25-30 unsprung lb. reduced.
1 mph for 3lbs of rear tire pressure increase (without spinning of course.)
.15 using fresh mr9 over pump gas.
What do you guys think of these, and what other E/T lowering mods or tricks do you know?
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posted August 20, 2009 10:32 PM
At least 1.1 if someone else rode my bike!!!
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WRECKSHOP
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posted August 21, 2009 06:45 AM
2 tenths for the rider with bigger NUTS. It's 90 percent all rider, dont matter what you have on the bike !!!! Just my humble opinion....
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SteddyTeddy
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posted August 21, 2009 07:02 AM
Seat time, seat time, seat time.
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Shane661
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posted August 21, 2009 07:08 AM
quote:
What Mods improve 1/8 and/or 1/4 mile ZX14 E/Ts
Please include:
E/T improvement per mod,
This is by no means a scientific study, just trying to compile a list of what works and how well.
(If anyone disagrees with anyone’s estimates please explain why.)
Here are some things that I have heard that may work:
.10 for every inch lower and .10 per inch longer (if you are able to apply the extra power these mods allow.)
.10 for each 25-30 unsprung lb. reduced.
1 mph for 3lbs of rear tire pressure increase (without spinning of course.)
.15 using fresh mr9 over pump gas.
What do you guys think of these, and what other E/T lowering mods or tricks do you know?
I would say that .10 for each inch of wheelbase is reasonably possible. But I am not sure about the .10 for each inch lower?
I have not seen 1 mph for 3 psi of tire pressure, and I just ran 152 mph in the heat yesterday with 19 psi hot in the rear tire. On another day, I did not see any change in mph with a 4 psi increase.
My personal experience with the MR9 suggests about .10, but it probably depends on how good your mapping is.
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smokehouse4444
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posted August 21, 2009 09:11 AM
My current setup lost me about .8 second compared to completely stock. I think I could probably lose another 1.0 second or so by having Smokin be the rider. That could get rather costly, however.
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eklipse636
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posted August 21, 2009 10:34 AM
I don't think you can put a number on each mod like that, because used in different combo's example: just lowered might give you .1 (not reallife numbers) and stretching may give you .3 but a stretched and lowered bike may give you .6 seconds... So my opinion is you have topo many variables.
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06redzx14
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posted August 21, 2009 11:04 AM
 Edited By: 06redzx14 on 21 Aug 2009 19:05
nitrous will certainly improve ET  how much depends on pil and how it is applied
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posted August 21, 2009 01:11 PM
Good feedback! plz. keep it coming.
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posted August 21, 2009 01:34 PM
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nitrous will certainly improve ET how much depends on pil and how it is applied
Taking power to weight into consideration(200lb rider/ 520lb bike) spraying second gear from 7000 rpm to 10500rpm stockmotor , how many rearwheel HP do you think it would take to drop .10 1/8 and or 1/4.
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posted August 21, 2009 01:49 PM
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At least 1.1 if someone else rode my bike!!!
lol that was funny i hear you
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06redzx14
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posted August 21, 2009 01:57 PM
My .28 in the left tube fogging the box with no window jus 2 dial on full throttle netted me .3 tenths with 12% added but the bottle pressure was 1000 psi me and the bike weigh in at 760
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posted August 21, 2009 02:03 PM
Seat Time ! ..
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posted August 21, 2009 02:22 PM
The best money i've spent is the few hundred dollars in test and tunes :P.
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Wheelie
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posted August 21, 2009 02:25 PM
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Seat Time ! ..
do you race? lol
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BLK ICE
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posted August 21, 2009 03:20 PM
Yeah I do.
I am just Tring to find out and share with members what works a how well. It is a given fact that if you don't know how to apply the mod to bike (seat time!) It is useless. I am tring to get a general idea of tested mods effectiveness.
By the way, what did 16/48 at 64"wb do for you v/s other gears you have tried? The fact that you are still stock clutch ,spring, and average weight would be very useful info.
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posted August 21, 2009 03:31 PM
I installed my 48t rear a few min ago (that's a BIIG bitch!) And I can let you know next sat! Shotrened my wheelsbase almost a full inch. I'm gonna take it for a test ride tomorrow bc its raining right now 
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posted August 21, 2009 03:44 PM
Edited By: Wheelie on 21 Aug 2009 23:45
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Yeah I do.
I am just Tring to find out and share with members what works a how well. It is a given fact that if you don't know how to apply the mod to bike (seat time!) It is useless. I am tring to get a general idea of tested mods effectiveness.
By the way, what did 16/48 at 64"wb do for you v/s other gears you have tried? The fact that you are still stock clutch ,spring, and average weight would be very useful info.
I was joking with zxbob, I dont think he has raced all year, he was out of work, then found a great job so he is busy working several hours a week,
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posted August 21, 2009 03:46 PM
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Yeah I do.
I am just Tring to find out and share with members what works a how well. It is a given fact that if you don't know how to apply the mod to bike (seat time!) It is useless. I am tring to get a general idea of tested mods effectiveness.
By the way, what did 16/48 at 64"wb do for you v/s other gears you have tried? The fact that you are still stock clutch ,spring, and average weight would be very useful info.
210lbs is average? lol
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ninjaboy311
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posted August 21, 2009 03:46 PM
Rotating weight helps too....lighter tires...lighter wheels....removing one front rotor.
Getting tucked in helps aerodynamics too which also helps some. Removing the mirrors reduced drag, as well as wearing tightly fitted jackets and pants instead of bulky jackets and pants that could flap in the wind and create drag.
Biggest increase I saw was losing body weight. Never excercised, just eating smaller portions, and no soft drinks, not even diet drinks. Lost 20 lbs in the process over a few months last year.
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BLK ICE
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posted August 21, 2009 06:18 PM
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quote:
Yeah I do.
I am just Tring to find out and share with members what works a how well. It is a given fact that if you don't know how to apply the mod to bike (seat time!) It is useless. I am tring to get a general idea of tested mods effectiveness.
By the way, what did 16/48 at 64"wb do for you v/s other gears you have tried? The fact that you are still stock clutch ,spring, and average weight would be very useful info.
210lbs is average? lol
wee
We have members form 300+(me, lol) too -150 pounds, so yeah, I think your weight is about average.
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posted August 22, 2009 07:48 AM
I'm gonna go with the seat time. Your 60' will make or break the pass. I always heard a tenth in the 60' is worth about 2 tenths in the 1/4 and it seems pretty accurate.
Get your right elbow up and when you leave slam that throttle open and feed the clutch. When you get comfortable enough to get really aggressive with it, you will see alot of improvement in the 60' and 330'
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Wheelie
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posted August 22, 2009 07:53 AM
getting the right elbow up is for show purposes only, it doesnt make you faster.
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Shane661
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posted August 22, 2009 07:56 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Aug 2009 15:58
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getting the right elbow up is for show purposes only, it doesnt make you faster.
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It's all in the wrist, imo. If you you can't cock your wrist far forward enough to easily get wfo, I guess it makes sense. But I see a lot of guys with the elbow up, and when they launch you would need a magnifying glass to see the throttle move! 
Think about the physics of it...how fast can you twist your wrist vs. move your whole arm??
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Wheelie
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posted August 22, 2009 07:58 AM
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getting the right elbow up is for show purposes only, it doesnt make you faster.
wee
It's all in the wrist. If you you can't cock your wrist far forward enough to easily get wfo, I guess it makes sense. But I see a lot of guys with the elbow up, and when they launch you would need a magnifying glass to see the throttle move!
the higher they get that elbow, the more serious it looks LOL,
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