jasonbalencia
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posted August 19, 2009 01:50 PM
How to do a switchable TRE Mod
This post is a write up on how I made my own switchable TRE (Timing Retard Eliminator).
Please don't reply on why or why not to do a TRE. There are many other post for that.
Please don't highjack this post with fly options. Yes we know it's better to remove your flies and you will see a wider response change (full RPM range).
Please don’t reply with comments on PC mapping. Yes it will need a change if you always run in TRE mode but it's not a must. In fact it only needs a change from 2750 RPM's to 5750 RPM's, and only from 20% throttle change to about 60%. If you use a powercommander then you can use the compare function from a map that has a TRE mod and one that doesn't to see the difference you need to change. If you need help using the software then click on the help function while running the powercommander software and it will explain everything. After you see the change needed (it will only take about 30min at the most to figure it out, I will not do your homework for you) you can make the change yourself and save the $300 buck on a re-map and spend it on something else.
A TRE mod is just that, it's not a magical turbo switch. You will not feel a great deal of change. If fact you will only feel a change from 2750 RPM to 5750 RPM everything before that range and after that range remains the same. If you want a quicker response then that then you need to remove your flies.
A switchable TRE is for people who want to be able to switch from STOCK and TRE mode. It's also for people who want a quicker response from their ride but don't want to remove their flies (you will only see this while in TRE mode). While in TRE mode your ECU will think it is always in 6th gear except when it is in neutral. So yes you will loose your gear indicator.
This mod is also great for anyone who wants to test the theory if a TRE works or not. You can make a pass in Stock mode then turn around and switch to TRE mode for your self and "yes" you will feel the difference.
Do Your Research: :confused:
Please see this tread to get more of an idea of the TRE mod on your ZX14
Click here for TRE info done on a GSXR, Ton's of info for TRE's
:cool: Lets get started......
First: Finding the GPS connector: On the left hand side of the bike, above sprocket cover near the white radiator overflow tank, you will find a green 4 pin GPS connector (Gear Position Sensor). This is what you will be working with.
Next: Below the connector is where you will be cutting in-between the CPU and GPS.
While doing your research you will see that some say you use a 220 ohm resistor and some say 270 ohm. 
I will save you the confusion. This is the resistance the ECU is looking for in 6th gear. Got it by placing the bike in 6th gear and took a reading from the GPS. You will need the 270 ohm resister.
Next I prepped the plans for what I needed to do:
Then I prepped the Switch:
Label the switch and the connector as such so that you will not get confused while splicing your switch into the ECU/GPS. Also, I choose to do all my splicing by solder and heat shrink. It takes a little more time but those were the tools I had. You can use quick connectors to accomplish the same.
This is a pic of what I used to secure switch to the frame without drilling or cutting of any kind. You can choose how ever you want to do your own.
The next image is a close up of the switch installed:
Another pic of the switch from further away. It's hard to see and still reachable while sitting on the bike.
I hope this helps anyone that wants to try the TRE. 
If you think a TRE is a bad thing then please reply to one of the many other post not the "HOW TO" post. Thanks!!!
 f you don't like the TRE then don't do it!
 : KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR SELF! This is a "HOW TO" post!
That being said! Lets Ride!
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masszx14
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posted August 19, 2009 04:42 PM
 Edited By: masszx14 on 20 Aug 2009 00:43
And this is my reply to your shitty attitude:
Learn how to show some respect to the people that have more than 1 post
on this forum (and any other for that matter).
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LAB3
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posted August 19, 2009 05:30 PM
SEMPER FI 2nd Recon 2nd Marines our Son.
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 19, 2009 06:08 PM
Edited By: jasonbalencia on 20 Aug 2009 02:20
I'm learning by your example on how to respect others! Thanks MASSZX13 for your input. I'll keep it in mind for my second post. Next time PM me to make a statment like that. IF you had a problem with my post I would have fixed it with a simple PM. But now that everyone can read it, Go XXXX yourself!
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LAB3
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posted August 19, 2009 06:14 PM
PM do not work. The reason you got flamed is the Caps. This aint Boot Camp Jarhead :-)
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 19, 2009 06:32 PM
Edited By: jasonbalencia on 20 Aug 2009 02:34
Wow, he really took the Caps thing serious! It was a statment in general not just to him. It was said because we all know how to google TRE and there are a million post out ther for it.
This post was made to help people understand it a little better and to save people some money to use on other things for their 14. Not to start another "Does a TRE really work?" By switching it on and off you would see that it does. The problem is that when you have one installed ten minutes later you get use to it and you think it didn't do anythin for you.
If I'm going to get slammed like this on my first thread to this forum then why should I come back?
I had a few more good ones to help out the 14 world but.... Really...
At this point I'm thinking "how can I delete my thread because I don't need to be welcomed like this"
I guess in some of these forums people will reply with anything just to get another post. Oh Watch Out... Now I have 3
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LAB3
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posted August 19, 2009 06:43 PM
KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOUR SELF= ATTITUDE notice no one else made a reply.
TRE has been beat to pulp and most here are Experienced ZX-14 Drag Racers.
You did not know this and being new here you did not know the PM are down.
No Thin Skin Marine...Hang in there is alot of Good people here with a wealth of ZX-14
knowledge. The Drag racers could give a flip if the 14 backfires.
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MJ
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posted August 19, 2009 08:04 PM
Edited By: MJ on 20 Aug 2009 04:05
I don't think theres anybody left around here who still has their flies in, let alone not know about a tre. Hell my flies have been gone for 3 years lol. This is a dragracing site, believe me the tre thing has been covered 
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smokinZX14
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posted August 19, 2009 08:34 PM
What's a TRE and why do i have to flip it off ?
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 19, 2009 08:59 PM
Here you go MJ
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Douglas Home
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posted August 19, 2009 09:48 PM
Welcome Jason , you just passed the baptism ,it gets easier from there!
Lots of good info on this site, I first read every thread to learn what these guys have worked out ,took me months ,then I started asking questions
Like life , keep the good stuff , throwout the bad and keep grinning!
Not me , but some people on here are ledgends on the track and workshop ,and lucky for us are willing to share . They just are human and have good or bad days.
Enjoy!!!!
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MJ
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posted August 19, 2009 11:25 PM
quote:
Welcome Jason , you just passed the baptism ,it gets easier from there!
Lots of good info on this site, I first read every thread to learn what these guys have worked out ,took me months ,then I started asking questions
Like life , keep the good stuff , throwout the bad and keep grinning!
Not me , but some people on here are ledgends on the track and workshop ,and lucky for us are willing to share . They just are human and have good or bad days.
Enjoy!!!!
Well said 
And welcome Jason 
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LAB3
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posted August 20, 2009 02:06 AM
quote:
What's a TRE and why do i have to flip it off ?
Jason Do Not Race this Man for $$ :-) he like some of us is shall we say
over 30 and Smokin has that nick name for a reason. LMAO what's a TRE?
no flipping off here :-)
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 20, 2009 03:51 AM
Edited By: jasonbalencia on 20 Aug 2009 11:56
lol, I'm catching on now! you guys are funny! FUN FUN FUN lol
You can't say bomb on a plane. What if you’re a bombardier?
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LAB3
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posted August 20, 2009 04:26 AM
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lol, I'm catching on now! you guys are funny! FUN FUN FUN lol
You can't say bomb on a plane. What if you’re a bombardier?
Just say see do :-) a bombardiaaa..................... I don't speak french..I live it :-)
I'm from texas, I screw up english and speak uall, fixin to go do sumpthin.
Howdy welcome to Tejas now Leave and don't take our women.
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 20, 2009 05:05 AM
Where at in TX? I'm from SA but I live in McAllen
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LAB3
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posted August 20, 2009 05:13 AM
Fort Worth
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jasonbalencia
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posted August 20, 2009 05:26 AM
Oh, you live way up north.... Thats a long drive
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