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posted August 06, 2009 07:52 AM
Gearing advice.
Im ordering a chain and sprocket set today off ebay. (Ebay ID Item number: 220460737604) I think i want to pick up a bit of acceleration, What gearing should i go with? I want to make the smallest change towards acceleration I can do, So like one or two more in the back then? How much more chain will i need?
And has anyone used the EK no tool chain link? They have it for $20 and i would like to get it to safe the headache of finding a shop or tool to use the rivit style one.
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posted August 06, 2009 08:52 AM
http://www.gearingcommander.com/
Would some sticky this already ...
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posted August 06, 2009 09:24 AM
Thanks for sharing dubious. Great info.
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posted August 06, 2009 09:56 AM
going up 1-2 is the smallest change, lol
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posted August 06, 2009 10:01 AM
Thanks,
Yes you have to play around with it a bit, but it has very accurrate info for our bike.
remember the top speed is dramatically different if the speed limiter is removed, the bike will rev out to 10,600 RPM limiter (actual not tach reading) compared to 9250 with the speed limiter( actual not tach reading)
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posted August 06, 2009 10:10 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 6 Aug 2009 18:12
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Im ordering a chain and sprocket set today off ebay. (Ebay ID Item number: 220460737604) I think i want to pick up a bit of acceleration, What gearing should i go with? I want to make the smallest change towards acceleration I can do, So like one or two more in the back then? How much more chain will i need?
And has anyone used the EK no tool chain link? They have it for $20 and i would like to get it to safe the headache of finding a shop or tool to use the rivit style one.
Unless you make a minimum change of 2-3 teeth in the back or 1 tooth up front, you won't notice much change
Also a speedo healer will overcome the loss of top speed easily.
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posted August 06, 2009 01:13 PM
Ok thanks for the input, I orderd a 17f 43 rear vortex sprockets. and a EK 530ZVX Chain. Does anyone know how many links it needs to be cut to?
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posted August 06, 2009 01:29 PM
stock is 120, but I think that will be tight with a new chain and 17-43, so 122-124? i think?
Maybe someone else has 1st hand experience.
You could do 16-41 with stock 120 chain no problem, if you don't like the gear, frt sprokets are way cheap and the stock 17 will still fit with 120 links...
If you get an RK chain rivet tool for~ $100, it is a good investment to keep forever.
You can rivet, press and cut for a lifetime with it......
The cheap ones are a waste of money, the pins break.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RK-CHAIN-BREAKER-AND-RIVET-TOOL-RIVETING-LINKS-UCT4060_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1e57cfa8b8QQitemZ130322245816QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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posted August 06, 2009 04:21 PM
Thanks dubious, I found a local shop to install the rivit link for 17.50 on my bike in the back of my truck. So im just going to go that route this time and save some cash. And for the record I just counted the links in the stock chain, There is 116 of them. The chain in my kit is a 120 link, so i should be good then. The front sprocket cover looks tricky, is it that bad to remove?
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posted August 06, 2009 04:44 PM
No, its easy to remove.
Look at the parts fiche stickied in the orum here, it shows which clutch slave bolt must be removed.
The countershaft nut will be the most difficult part.
heat the nut, and hit it hard. I got a buddy to stand on th rear brake in gear, and the tire still turned!
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posted August 07, 2009 04:36 AM
quote:
stock is 120, but I think that will be tight with a new chain and 17-43, so 122-124? i think?
Maybe someone else has 1st hand experience.
You could do 16-41 with stock 120 chain no problem, if you don't like the gear, frt sprokets are way cheap and the stock 17 will still fit with 120 links...
If you get an RK chain rivet tool for~ $100, it is a good investment to keep forever.
You can rivet, press and cut for a lifetime with it......
The cheap ones are a waste of money, the pins break.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RK-CHAIN-BREAKER-AND-RIVET-TOOL-RIVETING-LINKS-UCT4060_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1e57cfa8b8QQitemZ130322245816QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Sorry bro. stock is 116 links and add 2 for new 17/43 (OEM Steel front) and a steel (Driven ) 43 rear with 118 links will locate the rear wheel at the rear of the swing arm.
A stock (stretched ) 5000 miles will let you have 17/43 and rear axle is at front of swing arm.
A 120 link is EKZZ "stock" length we had to remove 2 links to install new chain and new
17/43 sprockets. Good thng this chain does not stretched much as you have very little
room for adj but it is OK. And is working find on friends 2006 14..Yoush man :-) Lurker :-)
with one foot in air reading this :-) private joke.
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posted August 07, 2009 04:49 AM
would going 117 put it at the front of the adjusters?
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Flies pulled, 16-42, BMC street, 8" extensions, drag shock, cut pan, Cycle Concepts Drag Pack and springs, muzzy m14 w/ oval can, lowered, Shinco usoft rear, pcv with autotune, leightweight Shori 18ah battery, throttle meister. 500lbs at bandimeres scales with half tank of juice.
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posted August 07, 2009 06:40 AM
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would going 117 put it at the front of the adjusters?
Uh............ if I remember correct you have to use even # links for master link to connect.
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posted August 07, 2009 07:51 AM
quote:
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stock is 120, but I think that will be tight with a new chain and 17-43, so 122-124? i think?
Maybe someone else has 1st hand experience.
You could do 16-41 with stock 120 chain no problem, if you don't like the gear, frt sprokets are way cheap and the stock 17 will still fit with 120 links...
If you get an RK chain rivet tool for~ $100, it is a good investment to keep forever.
You can rivet, press and cut for a lifetime with it......
The cheap ones are a waste of money, the pins break.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RK-CHAIN-BREAKER-AND-RIVET-TOOL-RIVETING-LINKS-UCT4060_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1e57cfa8b8QQitemZ130322245816QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Sorry bro. stock is 116 links and add 2 for new 17/43 (OEM Steel front) and a steel (Driven ) 43 rear with 118 links will locate the rear wheel at the rear of the swing arm.
A stock (stretched ) 5000 miles will let you have 17/43 and rear axle is at front of swing arm.
A 120 link is EKZZ "stock" length we had to remove 2 links to install new chain and new
17/43 sprockets. Good thng this chain does not stretched much as you have very little
room for adj but it is OK. And is working find on friends 2006 14..Yoush man :-) Lurker :-)
with one foot in air reading this :-) private joke.
Thanks Louis
I haven't had a stock length chain for 3 years, and thats why I was asking for someone with 1st hand experience with the 17/43 and stock chain too.
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posted August 07, 2009 08:26 AM
quote:
quote:
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stock is 120, but I think that will be tight with a new chain and 17-43, so 122-124? i think?
Maybe someone else has 1st hand experience.
You could do 16-41 with stock 120 chain no problem, if you don't like the gear, frt sprokets are way cheap and the stock 17 will still fit with 120 links...
If you get an RK chain rivet tool for~ $100, it is a good investment to keep forever.
You can rivet, press and cut for a lifetime with it......
The cheap ones are a waste of money, the pins break.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RK-CHAIN-BREAKER-AND-RIVET-TOOL-RIVETING-LINKS-UCT4060_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1e57cfa8b8QQitemZ130322245816QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Sorry bro. stock is 116 links and add 2 for new 17/43 (OEM Steel front) and a steel (Driven ) 43 rear with 118 links will locate the rear wheel at the rear of the swing arm.
A stock (stretched ) 5000 miles will let you have 17/43 and rear axle is at front of swing arm.
A 120 link is EKZZ "stock" length we had to remove 2 links to install new chain and new
17/43 sprockets. Good thng this chain does not stretched much as you have very little
room for adj but it is OK. And is working find on friends 2006 14..Yoush man :-) Lurker :-)
with one foot in air reading this :-) private joke.
Thanks Louis
I haven't had a stock length chain for 3 years, and thats why I was asking for someone with 1st hand experience with the 17/43 and stock chain too.
I will be asking the same thing when I go to 64 " ... :-)
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