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posted July 05, 2009 09:21 PM
 How much for 2 batteries shipped to Delaware????
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posted July 05, 2009 09:51 PM
I ordered a bunch more 2 weeks ago and never heard back.
I will get on the horn with them tomorrow.
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posted July 07, 2009 06:29 AM
Were you able to get any more info from them?
I think there are a great number of us that are waiting in the wing's for a price before we hop on the Speed Cell train and try it out… do you think there production is having a difficult time keeping up with the demand? How solid does this company look to you I am a little gun shy about getting ripped off these days.
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posted July 07, 2009 07:52 AM
I spoke with Josh the owner and founder, yesterday.
He is a very good guy, also has these types of batteries used in medical and military uses, and the design is proven.
He started making them for motorcycles as bikes are his passion.
He has been working with Yamaha and Ducati AMA superbike teams extensively, with total loss systems as well.
He is solid, and his company is solid.
We can not do any better on pricing at this time.
The demand far exceeds the supply, as I knew it would. I have been dealing with them since last January.
You will not get ripped off, nor will I.
I have come to realise he is just overwhelmed with the demand.
I never have to pay until he ships, and usaully that is indicated by phone.
Infact, I have been paying when the shipping notification is emailed to me from Fed ex.
I do not request payment until the day I mail or pack up your parcel either, so there is no lag or wait time with cash out of pocket other than the time it takes to be shipped from my door to yours .
I would not do business with someone I did not trust. Especailly not repetitively.
It took a few transactions to see that he is really busy, and demand exceeds supply.
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posted July 07, 2009 07:57 PM
Will my money be better spent getting a zx10 wheel, or a speed cell battery? 3.5lbs of sprung weight at the front of the bike could be a big difference... Plus I could sell my other wheel.... Almost same price. However, 10 lbs taken off the middle upper part of the bike could make a big difference.
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posted July 07, 2009 08:05 PM
Personally, and honestly, I would do the wheel.
The battery is a great way to lose weight, but losing 5 lbs of rotating mass is like losing 30 lbs non rotating.
The battery will still be available in reasonable notice, when you are ready.
I would be dropping free weight where possible, like passenger pegs, first too.
Just being honest.
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posted July 08, 2009 03:25 AM
Dubois,
Have you run one of these batteries in normal use for any length of time, as in 6 or 12 months? I'm just curious how they hold up in normal conditions?
I've got my 12 on a diet, with carbon tank, dymag wheels and about the only thing left is the battery.
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posted July 08, 2009 03:34 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Jul 2009 11:39
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Will my money be better spent getting a zx10 wheel, or a speed cell battery? 3.5lbs of sprung weight at the front of the bike could be a big difference... Plus I could sell my other wheel.... Almost same price. However, 10 lbs taken off the middle upper part of the bike could make a big difference.
If you go with that wheel, be sure to weigh it and report your results. The 14 stock wheel is 11.6 lbs. I will be very surprised if the oem ZX10 wheel is only 8 lbs. My Carbon Fiber front wheel is 6 lbs, and I would expect it to be more than 2 lbs. lighter than a cast oem wheel.
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posted July 08, 2009 05:22 AM
will do shane. Thanks for the honesty dubious.
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posted July 08, 2009 05:29 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Jul 2009 13:30
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will do shane. Thanks for the honesty dubious.
I would also say that for drag racing, you will probably get better results by losing the 10 lbs. with the battery. The lighter front wheel will be more suited for handling, than an ET improvement.
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posted August 20, 2009 02:35 PM
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I installed a speed cell battery in my zx14. the speed cell superbike(2 row) weighed 1 lb 7oz.when I installed the battery you dont need the factory cables or the battery box.the parts I pulled out weighed 11lb 12oz loosing 10lb 5oz. the bike starts up the same and I have started it about 10 times without running it to charge. thats a lot to loose and not give anything up.
Do you know how much the battery itself weighed - how difficult was it to remove the box and cables?
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posted August 20, 2009 02:51 PM
1 lb 7 oz vs 11 lb 12 oz
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posted August 20, 2009 02:51 PM
I haven't fired up the 14 in almost 3 weeks- I guess that will
be the first real test for my Speedcell.
It did need an initial charge though when I first took it out of the box-
it was either never charged or had completely discharged.
The battery does weigh 1.7lbs. according to my kitchen scale 
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posted August 20, 2009 02:53 PM
Sorry abou that Stan,
Normaly they are charged before shipping.
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posted August 20, 2009 03:07 PM
No worries Lyle- it worked fine afterwards.
I'll let you guys know how it fires up now.
I rode my gf's bike for a couple of days and then finally got a good deal
on a used 08 gsxr 750 (I'll do track days on it mostly), also rode it for a
couple of days and then sprained my left ankle pretty bad while playing tennis.
Long story - it will be 3 weeks this Sat that the 14 hasn't been fired up.
Curious how the battery holds up and how it cranks up- my Odyssey PC310
would have definately been dead.
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posted August 20, 2009 03:40 PM
I have been told the clock and alarm systems that put a constant drain with no charge are doing that, and it doesn't seem to matter what battery you use......
Here is some interesting news.
I have a friend with a Harley runninmg dual Odyssy PC310 batteries to start the 113 CU S&S motor... well a single 12 cell super cell now starts his bike!
He was extremely happy to save the weight and space!
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posted August 20, 2009 04:28 PM
I don't have an alarm on the 14- you know I have a guard dog for that
It's great to shed another 10 lbs. with a simple battery swap 
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posted August 21, 2009 08:00 AM
Dubios - Are you selling these batteries?
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posted August 21, 2009 08:44 AM
Yes I am.
.... when I can get them... LOL
There is a huge demand, and the manufacture is having a hard time keeping up sometimes.
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posted August 21, 2009 06:04 PM
What do you have in stock in the 6.8 ot 9.6
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posted August 22, 2009 08:13 AM
Edited By: dubious on 22 Aug 2009 16:48
speed cell makes 3 different sizes:
2.3 -4 cell super sport <750cc
4.6 - 8 cell superbike > 750
6.9 - 12 cell >1500 cc or massive compression ratio engines over 1000 cc or more.
9.2 - for +115 cu harleys, 15:1 compression 4 cylinders etc.
Currently I have a 2.3 amp 4 cell and 6.9 amp 12 cell.
Please emial me with your number for more info:
eldubois at telus dot net
Thanks
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posted August 22, 2009 08:46 AM
more info:
SpeedCell - Total Loss 6.9 - 360 Amp Battery/Super Lightweight/Extremely Compact/See Details Inside
Model: 6.9 Amp $375.00
Weight: 2.50
SpeedCell Total Loss 6.9 Battery
The SpeedCell 6.9 battery is a 360 Amp Battery, and weighs only 2lbs 1.8oz (.95Kg). Super compact design, lightweight, and powerful!
It's durable: 1% total capacity loss with stop loss at 2% so it never drains down to zero.
No maintenance: The battery does not need to be on a trickle charger or battery tender type devide. If it ever needs re-charging, just use any 5amp or higher charger.
Safe: The SpeedCell battery packs are made using A123 cells. The construction process is proprietary and these battery packs do not require balancing. The packs are built specifically for motorcycle applications with cylindrical cells due to there robust construction (withstands shock and vibration) and discharge properties. Each SpeedCell pack is constructed to a Department Of Defense (DoD) standard, and is capable of withstanding 100G load, working effectively in a wide range of operating temperatures from -50*C to 49*C (-58*F to 120*F).
Please do not confuse the SpeedCell battery packs with lesser products on the market! It is important to understand that these packs are NOT RC hobby type packs & their internal construction as well as cell grade reflects this. Each and every cell is individually tested before it makes it to the construction phase. These packs are not Lithium ION construction. SpeedCell uses Lithium Ferrous cells that are not volatile or unstable. They will not rupture when puncture nor produce an energy chain.
SpeedCell 6.9 Specifications
Pulse discharge @ 10 seconds = 360 Amps
Continuous discharge (MAX) = 210 Amps
Cycle Life (DoD spec) = 1,000 cycles
SpeedCell 6.9 Dimensions
Length = 10.67cm / 4.2"
Width = 7.62cm / 3.0"
Height = 7.11cm / 2.8"
Weight = 0.95Kg / 2lbs 1.8oz
Rating = 6.9Ah
Applications
Motorcycles where a more compact battery is needed, and where weight savings is critical.
Motorcycles where the charging system has been removed (stator removed).
Engines greater than 1100cc with stock stators.
Difficult to start, highly modified 2 cylinder engines larger than 800cc, or highly modified 1000cc or larger 4 cylinder engines typically with high compression.
Prolonged repeated starting attempts on a smaller Speedcell battery than recomended can overheat and damage the Speedcell battery.
- Optional new "Quick-Release" for those configurations where the battery needs to be removed regularly or if you would like to use the battery on multiple machines. If you choose the Quick Release option for your battery, it will come pre-wired with a quick release connector and will also include connector that you will install on your machine. Extra bike side Quick-Release fittings are available if you would like to use this battery on multiple machines.
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posted August 22, 2009 08:56 AM
9.2 A battery.... this battery is only required for full out 15:1 1400 cc four cylinder engines, or +115 Cubic inch harleys with 11:1 or greater compression.
I have had good success with the 6.9 on 113 CU S&S motors, and the 6.9 easilly covers the 1400cc 13:1 compression 4 cyl engines.
In fact I have several of the 4,6 batteries in stock compression zx14 and Hayabusa with no problems at all.
The new incredible superlight Speedcell battery that produces 1.8 amps per gram of weight.
The new Speedcell 9.2 battery is a 480 Amp Battery, weighs 2lbs,13oz (1.28Kg).
It's durable: 1% total capacity loss with stop loss at 2% so it never drains down to zero.
No maintenance: The battery does not need to be on a trickle charger. If it ever needs re-charging, just use any 5amp or higher charger.
Safe: These packs are made using A123 cells. The constructions process is proprietary & these packs do not require balancing. The packs are built for motorcycle applications w/ cylindrical cells due to there robust construction & discharge properties. Each PACK is made to a DoD standard, capable of withstanding 100G load, operating temperatures of -50*C to 49*C (-58*F to 120*F). It is important to understand that these packs are NOT RC hobby type packs & their internal construction as well as cell grade reflects this. Each cell is individually tested before it makes it to the construction phase. These packs are not Lithium ION construction. Speedcell uses Lithium Ferrous cells that are not volatile or unstable. They will not rupture when puncture nor produce an energy chain.
SpeedCell "9.2" Specs:
- Pulse discharge @ 10 seconds = 480 Amps
- Continuous discharge (MAX) = 280 Amps
- Cycle Life (DoD spec) = 1,000 cycles
- Dimensions: L = 10.92cm W = 10.67 H = 7.11cm
- Weight = 2lbs 13oz ( 1.28Kg )
- Rating = 9.2Ah
- Applications = For bikes with no charging systems that need a little longer run time. Engines greater than 2000cc with stock stators or difficult to start highly modified 2 cylinder engines larger than 1000cc or highly modified 1400cc 4 cylinder engines.
* Hard starting motors with hi compression pistons may need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah batteries. Bikes with minimal or non-existant (total Loss) charging system need the larger 6.9Ah or 9.2Ah as well. On modified bikes--Check with us for the proper application. Let us know what you are currently using to start the bike. Prolonged repeated starting attempts on a smaller Speedcell battery than recomended can overheat and damage the Speedcell battery.
* Options: We have a new "Quick-Release" option for those that need to remove the battery often or would like to use the same battery on several bikes. Quick release batteries will come pre-wired with a quick release fitting and include a bike side fitting that you can bolt on to your bike. Extra bike side"Quick-Release fittings are available if you would like to use this battery on several bikes.
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posted August 22, 2009 09:46 AM
Dubious, what type of voltage rating would the 6.9 speed cell be considered to have in comparison to a regular battery, where a regular battery has 12 volt?
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posted August 22, 2009 05:01 PM
they are all 14 v rated, perfect for todays bikes!
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