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posted May 23, 2009 12:51 PM
Obamanation has spent more in his 1st 100 days than all the Presidents combined.
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posted May 23, 2009 12:55 PM
And he said he was going to stop after 787 billion for his term that lasted about a month then he wanted trillions.
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posted May 23, 2009 12:58 PM
This thread went from ZX14 Supercharger to Obummer Supersize
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posted May 23, 2009 12:58 PM
America's credit rating is threatened to be reduced too
Fears Grow Over U.S. Losing Triple-A Credit Rating
Financial experts think ballooning deficits and a surge in spending are putting the U.S. at risk of losing its triple-A credit rating.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/23/fears-grow-losing-triple-credit-rating/
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posted May 23, 2009 12:59 PM
quote: This thread went from ZX14 Supercharger to Obummer Supersize
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posted May 23, 2009 01:03 PM
Bush caused all of this? LOL
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posted May 23, 2009 01:57 PM
quote: I really don't mean to turn this thread into a politcal battle because whatever is done is done but, HAHAHA! i have to laught to keep from crying when l see that we still have bush supporters in the world. I cant believe that after all the Shit bush has put us in, he still has supporters, despite the fact that millions of bush's own supporters were smart enought to help get OBAMA into office. Bush didn't care about nobody but himself. Besides being one of the worst Presidents, he had to be the dumbest one by far. If you had the opportunity to take a look at Leno, Letterman, CNN or any local news, while bush was in office, you would see how bush was always the butt of all jokes whenever he opened his mouth. He wasn't a very intelligent man at all and he definietly didn't desrve the role as a President of anything! (but we all know how that happened, right in you very own state of Florida, SteveWFL).
Obama on the other hand has done more good in 100 days than bush did in 8 years. In addition to that Obama has a BRAIN and is very well spoken. bush was a dumb dumb and an embarrassment to the United States as well as the entire World. Just go look at his approval rating for yourself.
Our Canadian Primeministers have left alot to be desired too, so don't think I am comparing.... but I have to agree, Bush has to be the most embarrasssing fool the US has had for a president.
As far as Obbama and the money he has spent, he is trying to save your hides and bail out your economy. Unfortunately the entire World economy hinges on the US economy, or is heavily influenced by the economics of the US.
The mismanagement of the past has caught up with the present, and in reality if it wasn't so messed up, he wouldn't be spending money cleaning up and repairing the mess it is.
For every citizen in the US, and every citizen of the World, I sincerely believe he is the man for the job, wish him the best and believe he is intelligent enough to do it, with the support of the people and the big business.
I think what he did with the taxation of ridiculous bonuses, whilst companies paying out retarded bonuses claim losses, and ask for bailout cash is way overdue and awesome.
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posted May 23, 2009 02:43 PM
Obama is for gun control, any mention of Hyper Bike control? Germany has the Autobahn where is ours? Sometimes it feels like the Socialist countries have more freedom in some ways, I know, Germany is Democratic.
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posted May 23, 2009 02:52 PM
Well, Gun control is a massive waste of money.
Canada has spent over 6 billion $ tring to acheive it, 4 Billion over budget, and 6 years over target date, and still is not complete.- those stats may be completley wrong at this time, as I have not paid much attention to it lately.
We only have about 1/30 of the armery your public holds, so for the USA to attain gun control is a mere fantasy, and a massive waste of money.
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posted May 23, 2009 04:26 PM
This is funny,but to start saying Obama is worst than PRES. Bush is a joke.Guys we could argue all day and nobody's mind would be changed.The only thing that republicans can do to change things is to have viable candidates and right now we dont.America has spoken for better or worst .The only thing that concerns me is that the republican party has no moderate voices.Colin was badmouthed and belittled by Dick Cheney of all people and the supposed party leaders just stand by looking on.This country needs a vibrant opposition party and right now there isnt one.Usually i could care less what some other country thinks but sometimes it takes a new set of eyes to get you evauluate yourself,Dubious,is a straight forward guy and the fresh set of eyes.I cant say President Bush did a great job with a straight face.But when the republican party kills off all the moderate voices, they will only make the party smaller which seems to be exactly what they are doing.The new ambassador to China would have been a great candidate for 2012 but he was a mod. republican.We the republicans are shooting ourselves in the foot and wondering why we are limping. SUPERCHARGED ZX14 sign me up.GOD BLESS THE USA
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posted May 23, 2009 04:39 PM
Obama, doesn't want to own car companies. He has said so in public - but what's the alternative? let them go broke as any other company should do?
Look at the tax breaks the Bush system gave you when you bought a Hummer!!! LOL!! what sort of car CEO would not see the writing on the wall about fuel economy... GREED you idiots...
I can hear the boardroom "Well our folks like big things, bigger is better, bigger looks better, bigger is best..... Hoot, who cares about fuel economy and the environment. We can make billions out of this...."...
Have you heard the saying "Comes back to bite you in the bum"....
There are millions of Americans that will now - by law - be better informed about their credit card usage. Half of all Americans have credit card debt - the Average debt is US$7,000 that's a LOT OF MONEY that isn't yours and the wingers talk about 'credit debt' - YOU created it!
Bush and Obama are advised by members of cabinet. Bush had a lot of 'old school friends' advising him and the lobbyists.
Look at the these tax havens Obama is cracking down on. Lots of people aren't going to be happy about that. But he's right in that the profits stay out of America, and sit in banks that the profiters get back later by other means: Property deals, cars, boats and so on.
Look at the backhanded deals with Haliburton and Cheney. Rumsfield thankgod is hopefully out of the picture forever, he walked around the globe with a big stick!
Obama is new, young, and has already made huge changes that bush couldn't have done. The USA was already in the shit half way through Bush's reign. Bush didn't tell you!
Look at how fast bills are getting through - Bush wanted battles - Obama wants agreement, and he gets it. Never before has the USA (AFAIK), had so many Bi-Party agreements.
You guys and gals need to work together to fix your shit up. Don't knock Obama for the dish you served him.
Just remember how many young men and women have died recently for "the intelligence was wrong". JEEZE, i don't hear the ranters of "We have the best, blah, blah, blah", on that little itty bitty issue do we!
True story: I was on the beach here walking the dog. Met a US guy who said he was an international real estate agent. I told him about my parents selling the house in the UK. He replied that the mortgage industry in the US is f@#ked and told me to tell my parents to drop the house price, like now by 20% and get out before it hits the UK.
I thought WTF, who is this guy? I told my parents and they said "we haven't heard of this". In the end (2.5 years after this), they had to sell for 55% less and they say they were 'lucky' to get that!
So if this no-body knew about the mortgage issue nearly 3 years ago - how come most of you didn't?
Bush didn't you all jack shit!
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posted May 23, 2009 05:06 PM
Off the subject, a former Kawasaki employee has been petitioning the issue for years now. His wife works for Kawasaki and told me in detail about the new Busa weeks before it's release. We all (the inside outers), remember the day when the Triumph Bonneville was the most insane hp monster on Earth. Save for the Vincent liter.
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posted May 23, 2009 05:16 PM
Anyone pay any attention to the "new" mpg standards set for car manufacotrs? LOL 37.6 mpg by 2016...... They just bailed Detroit out and now this is gonna officailly fold them....lol
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posted May 23, 2009 06:02 PM
My Turbo 14 averages 38.9 mpg with frisky business.
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posted May 23, 2009 06:07 PM
All I want is a supercharged 14!
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posted May 23, 2009 06:22 PM
I have lost IQ points reading some of the posts in this thread…If Bush was stupid then Obama is a liar. Pelosi and Biden as leaders are you kidding me.
The federal government is so large it doesn’t matter who is running it. Red or Blue it’s just a behemoth on its way towards complete toltarianism. The government in it’s many layers will never allow itself to contract to a reasonable size and will tax the public to death while continuing to increase the number of laws and regulations as to what we can’t do.
As far as the bailouts, you can’t have capitalism on the way up and socialism on the down. The car companies and banks have fucked the public for years with inflated prices and fees for piss poor quality and service. They should have done what the rest of us have to do...live on a budget and save for a rainy day. I say fuck'em to any business that just a few years ago had billions in profits and now can’t even keep the lights on.
What we need is a paradigm shift. Fuck the two party system, fuck irresponsible big business but most of all fuck bed wetting liberals who scream entitlement because they are too lazy or stupid to make their own way like the rest of us.
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posted May 23, 2009 06:33 PM
quote: All I want is a supercharged 14!
Unless Harley comes out with the 2000cc V-4, weight under 580 wet, 240 hp stock. Pigs now fly,........... we have a Black President, can Harley fly? Or will Harley remain a Hog? May issue, Cycle World reports the V-4. Don't think Hogs can fly. V-2 is a rocket term, not a viable engine design with a bad firing order.
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posted May 24, 2009 03:15 AM
SHUT UP ABOUT POLITICS!
This thread is for shit that matters... Like a friggin' SUPERCHARGED ZX-14
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posted May 24, 2009 05:11 AM
If it's in a Jet Ski, it's already real.................jus axin.
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posted May 24, 2009 05:59 AM
The intercooling of the charge would be the single biggest factor in converting a supercharged jet ski to a bike. There is just no replacing the efficiency of a stable source of water intercooling like the ski has. However, seeing as how those 250hp ski's can supposedly be modded to over 350hp without any kind of heating issues leads me to believe its not that high a hurdle for a engineer to overcome for, say 225hp using a compact air to air intercooler. Which brings up the next biggest challenge: fitting both a supercharger AND the engine and intercooler radiator into the small area a bike has infront of the engine. As long as they follow the "Form follows Function" mantra is should be viable and not too godawful bloated. It will not happen until both the Japanese and American economies turn around, though. $$$ is hard to come by now for the kind of engineering required.
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posted May 24, 2009 11:03 AM
They could easily super OR turbocharge the 14 very nicely, factory intercooled, forged internals etc, and make a rockin' ride. They could have did it years ago....they're just afraid of the good ole guvment and regulations, and also raising the price up to much The factory could design a boosted bike with dependability, fit, finish, and power we can only dream of with our bolt on stuff....they just need the balls to do it
They just feel safer stepping the power up on our "suicide-cycles" in baby steps
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posted May 24, 2009 01:00 PM
Thread back on track from the black hole depths of bureaucratic talk. To the sweet dreams of the Supercharged ZX14 . I want one with a Mad Max button so I can turn the blower off & on
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posted May 24, 2009 03:23 PM
long ducks dong
i could definitely tell a rhino dong on my 14 was fabricated; stranger things have happened than sticking a supercharger on a 4 cylinder...........i think thats been done too.
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posted May 24, 2009 04:54 PM
quote: The highest mortality rate for motorcycles, is the cruisers age 40-70. Bikes like the 14, squids can't afford the insurance. A high number of hyper bikes, like the 14 and Busa are used for the track only. My insurance full coverage is $55 dollars a month and includes the Triumph and 150cc scooter which are libelity only . One of the 21 year old at work wanted a ZX-14 but his insurance would have been $8000.00 a year. The Hypers are not normally owned by squids and when a squid want's one the big buck gets in the way. I'll be 60 this year, my buddy owns a 14 and will be 63 years old. It would be curious to know the average age of a 14/Busa owner.
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posted May 24, 2009 06:32 PM
Superchargers make 2 much heat.Plus it takes alot more fuel 2 make the same hp as a turbo.
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