runr2940
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posted May 18, 2009 08:48 PM
front axle
So just put some new pilot roads on the bike ('06 14) and got the rear installed without a hitch...having some issues with the front though. Didn't have the right stand for it so I put the front tire on the ground after I stuck the front axle and washers through it, hooked everything back up (fender and brakes) and started screwing in the axle nut and about killed myself. Is it supposed to be so hard? I have one of those nut adapters in each side and a wrench on each, got it screwed about half way in (the two front bolts on each fork are completely loosened) and now I can't budge it any more (can't even back it out without herculean effort). Don't think it's stripped, but not entirely sure. Any ideas? Thanks!
  
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 18, 2009 09:06 PM
Oooh that front axle is supposed to thread in freely with minimal effort.... Also the left fork leg where the axle nut goes is supposed to stay in and you dont loosen the fork pinch bolts.
I hope your axle is still good but it don't sound good....
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MJ
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posted May 19, 2009 11:06 AM
So you tried to thread the axle in with the full weight of the bike on it? No no no.....bad move. Those threads are fairly big and forgiving, but it sounds very possible you still could have thrashed your axle. Plus you didn't do the front wheel bearings any good either  If the axle didn't line up properly you could very well have pushed the bearing inner races around enough to trash them. Also be sure the bearings are still straight and equally set into the wheel, as well as the seals. You need to get the front forks off the ground, and use blocks (or rest the wheel on your foot) to get the wheel close to the right height, then as you thread the axle in move the wheel slightly so the axle threads in easily. Also as stated above leave the left side axle nut in and the pinch bolts tight. You only need to tighten the axle 
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zxbob
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posted May 19, 2009 02:49 PM
I have a new front axel and nut if you find that you need them.
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dubious
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posted May 19, 2009 04:03 PM
sounds crossthreaded.... 
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runr2940
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clown question, bro
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posted May 19, 2009 07:30 PM
I may take you up on that Bob. I took it back off and discovered the reason for it being so hard...apparently the front stand I borrowed from a friend had those two little poles that stuck up through the holes on the bottom of the forks...the poles were too long and protruded up through the holes, pushing the axle rod up against the top of the sheath and crossthreading/stripping it as I turned it through the nut sheath. I'm waiting for my new front stand adapters to get in so I can do it right, but just looking at the threads it doesn't look too bad. I'll tell you if I can still thread it through easily once I get the new stand. Thanks!
PS, this thread is rife with phallic euphemisms...
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mike1024
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posted May 20, 2009 09:26 AM
same problem happened to me. My dealer took 1200 ft/lbs to break the nut. No shit.
They grinded a little away of the inside fork where the axle slides in, and fits great now.
Over time, I think the metals shrink somehow. Happened one at about 22k miles. I dont ride super hard, casually on street, little faster in canyons.
Get a dremel and take a teeeeeensy rub where the axle slides through!
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runr2940
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clown question, bro
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posted May 20, 2009 02:27 PM
Yeah, I'm fu@#%^. Lifted the bike to get the front stand out from under and broke off the bottom of the fork. Can you weld these things back on, or do I need a completely new fork?
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SteveWFL
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posted May 20, 2009 02:41 PM
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Yeah, I'm fu@#%^. Lifted the bike to get the front stand out from under and broke off the bottom of the fork. Can you weld these things back on, or do I need a completely new fork?
Personally I wouldn't ride on a welded fork, I'd try to find a used replacement
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 20, 2009 04:24 PM
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Yeah, I'm fu@#%^. Lifted the bike to get the front stand out from under and broke off the bottom of the fork. Can you weld these things back on, or do I need a completely new fork?
Personally I wouldn't ride on a welded fork, I'd try to find a used replacement
I 2nd that
I hate when that hapens !
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bigdtd
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posted May 20, 2009 04:29 PM
time for ohlins! and get an assist!
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SteveWFL
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posted May 20, 2009 05:57 PM
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time for ohlins! and get an assist!
+1
(on both counts)
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posted May 20, 2009 06:21 PM
Suck....I bet the 85 bucks an hour a good mechanic charges, sounds like a deal right now.
We have all done something like that....
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted May 20, 2009 10:30 PM
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Suck....I bet the 85 bucks an hour a good mechanic charges, sounds like a deal right now.
We have all done something like that....
Yah and at least if that good mechanic frags your bike up you have someone other than youself to put foot to ass to lol 
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