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posted May 08, 2009 03:26 PM
1/4 vs 1/8th debate.
Been doing a lot of debating with people lately who refuse to run 1/8th mile. I actually had a guy tell me that the 1/8th mile is for beginners lol. Here's the breakdown that I did for him on how a run down the dragstrip goes. Correct me if i'm wrong and I'll eat a slice of humble pie, but I think that the 1/8th is a riders race whereas the 1/4 allows for some goof ups on the bottom end as long as you've got the power to make up for it on the big end.
BTW, the discussion started with a turbo busa rider that sucks on the first half of the track and i was trying to bait him out to the track.
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explain to me how you have to be a better racer for the last half of the track than the first half... Remember, the first half of the 1/4 mile is an 1/8th.
Here's what drag racing consists of...
stage (deep or shallow makes a difference in either mph or 60ft)
cut a light (where most bracket races are won or lost)
Launch (the absolute most crucial part of the race for shorter races)
Get your feet up in time for the 1-2 shift without upsetting the chasis.
get a good tight tuck where you can see your tach.
That takes care of the first 330ft or less. the rest looks like this.
Shift from 2-3
shift from 3-4
shift from 4-5
If the longer tracks take a better rider then 1/4 miles are for pussies since they're not the standing mile. If I had a 1/4 mile track here then I would run it instead of the 1/8th because most people want to run 1/4 and I like having more people to race against. Although I would not want to run a turbo bike in the 1/4 because of the fact that all you have to do is get it off the line and it'll reel a naturally aspirated bike in.
Food for thought.
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posted May 08, 2009 03:31 PM
what do you do if you only have an 8th mile track for 100's of miles near you? lol
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posted May 08, 2009 03:37 PM
you go to it like I do lol.
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posted May 08, 2009 03:46 PM
those people probable race roll on races, you have it correct, after the 330' its all automatic, no skills involved.
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posted May 08, 2009 04:28 PM
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those people probable race roll on races, you have it correct, after the 330' its all automatic, no skills involved.
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posted May 08, 2009 04:35 PM
Anyone who says the 1/8th is for beginners....must be a beginner. 
I would love to race more 1/8th...but it seems my tracks here aren't prepped, or are dangerous, or both...
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posted May 08, 2009 04:49 PM
it's a shame that redline in caddo mills tx isn't bike friendly. that track flat out hooks...
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posted May 08, 2009 04:54 PM
Anybody that can't run the first half fast can't run the back half fast either ...
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posted May 08, 2009 05:17 PM
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you have it correct, after the 330' its all automatic, no skills involved.
wee
maybe on a stock bike, but if its anything serious its a ride and a half the WHOLE trip down including shut down on the shorter tracks.
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posted May 08, 2009 05:21 PM
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The race is over too quick. If you love to race, you want to be on the bike longer I would assume. That's how I feel. If it's the beginning, lets just change it to 60ft races. haha...that's the real skill right? You want to utilize the whole motor and short races don't do that. 1/4 is racing!  :  :
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posted May 08, 2009 05:26 PM
but then smokin and ninjaboy would win everything lol.
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posted May 08, 2009 07:43 PM
Well, the 1/4 is the full race. Just is. But I've often wished that there was an 1/8th miler close by. Hell, there's plenty of room at the track I go to build one. Sometimes I just want to practice the launches. There is talent and skill to be used on the big end, but Bawls I have to agree with the quote. Once I'm off and get my long legs up to properly shift into 2nd, the rest is tight as possible tuck and perfect shifts. Now, the bracket racing...there's all sorts of games going on at the big end. lol
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posted May 08, 2009 07:45 PM
smokin and ninjaboy win everything anyway
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posted May 08, 2009 07:55 PM
Touche salesman... touche. Speaking of that... homeboy has resorted to flashing the fact that he has more money than me by saying he'll only race me for slips. I should buy a set of extensions, an airshifter, and a 40 shot and take his fucking bike.
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posted May 09, 2009 05:03 AM
Your bickering with an internet idiot.
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posted May 09, 2009 07:47 AM
I always thought that a good sprint rider was someone who new how to get the bike off the line and that's what makes the difference. The rest is fairly predictable.
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posted May 09, 2009 07:51 AM
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Your bickering with an internet idiot.
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posted May 09, 2009 07:53 AM
I've been fortunate in that I've never had to run an 1/8 mile track. However, there are many tracks in the country that are only 1/8 mile, and you have to go with what you have.
I personally hate 1/8 mile tracks. I'm not very good at 60 foot times, and in the 1/8 mile it's critical. With the turbo ZX14, it got some legs. So in the last half, it really pulls hard, and I enjoy that part.
I've been drag racing bikes since the mid 80's, and I personally think that it takes more skill to run an 1/8 mile than 1/4 miles, especially bracket racing.
With the 1/4 mile, you have some wiggle room with your dial in, and you can still spin the tire and make up lost time. It's almost impossible to do that in the 1/8.
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posted May 09, 2009 10:05 AM
in a 1/8th mile the best rider will win, in a 1/4 mile he who has the most money will usually win with a big big MPH
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posted May 09, 2009 10:44 AM
1/8th mile means you better cut a damned good light too.
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posted May 09, 2009 11:01 AM
Guys you go 1/8 mi. every trip down the track,
just at some tracks you go for a little longer!
1st half is where all the work gets done,
2nd half is just for the adrenaline junkies in all of us!
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posted May 09, 2009 11:51 AM
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Guys you go 1/8 mi. every trip down the track,
just at some tracks you go for a little longer!
1st half is where all the work gets done,
2nd half is just for the adrenaline junkies in all of us!
so which Halve are you fastest?
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posted May 09, 2009 11:52 AM
I've run both and enjoy both, but i prefer the 1/8 because of the challenge. there is far less room for mistakes on the short track and if you can't get it done down low, you not gonna get it done on the other end most likely. i hear so many guys say that if they run the 1/4 their bike will run better (squids) but all they gonna do is make that big hp bike make them look worse with a weak e.t. and huge mph!
its gonna be the same no matter which one you run though, Get it goin fast ASAP!!!! and chop and brake across the line!!
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posted May 09, 2009 02:04 PM
1/4 is too short. Spend a whole day at the track for perhaps a half minute of racing. No high speed thrill. Go for the full mile.
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posted May 09, 2009 10:16 PM
I don't care if 1/8th mile takes more skill....... I wish we had 1.5 mile tracks. I just like going fast! One thing that would suck at a long track though is there would be a lot more waiting. Do you 1/8th mile guys get a lot more runs in compared to a 1/4 mile track?
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