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posted February 25, 2009 04:34 PM
Nitrous window switch
Figured i would share this with everyone. I recently purchased a dynotune nitrous system and got a single stage rpm window switch to go with it. I knew the window switch used a gear position selector. Well during the hookup, It had to be hooked into coil #1 Driver to pick up a tach signal, Then the window switch gets hooked into the signal wire of the TPS, Then it used a 12 volt relay that didnt come with the kit and a switch that didnt come with the kit no biggie. Well during the programming i thought to myself...I didnt hook into any gear sensor or anything. What the window switch does is counts the number of WOT to figure what gear positon your in. So to get it to spray you have to arm the switch under seat. have it programmed initally, say you input an RPM of 8000-11000 and Gear position of 3 WOT. It wont spray until WOT at 3rd gear , between 8000-11000 rpm and if you would happen to shift with a electric or air shifter between that rpm range i would stop spraying, because it would not see an RPM reading due to the cutting of clynders. Its a pretty nice window switch for $100.
  
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 25, 2009 04:46 PM
You can configure a PClll hub to do that too.
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posted February 25, 2009 05:30 PM
I just wired up that same switch. so are you saying that it stops spraying only when shifting or completely stops spraying?
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posted February 25, 2009 05:35 PM
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I just wired up that same switch. so are you saying that it stops spraying only when shifting or completely stops spraying?
I called the techline and talked to them and from what he told me is that window switch has to see an RPM within the window you set, And WOT, if it doesnt see both those factors it stops spraying. so even though your shifting at WOT with a electric or Air shifter its not seeing the required RPM window so it shuts down. So once the coils fire again, and your at WOT it will spray again in the next gear when you reach your RPM window.
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posted February 25, 2009 05:46 PM
Basically from 1st gear on i'm always at WOT so if it only stops spraying during the shift thats ok.
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pazx14rider
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posted February 25, 2009 06:15 PM
yea as far as i know i would ask smokin its the same system he had. I didnt want it to spray during the shift due to filling the clynders with spray when the clynders were being cut out. The guy at dynotune told me alot of guys spray during the shift, but i just dont like the theory behind it.
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posted February 25, 2009 06:20 PM
I'm not as concerned about spraying during the shift as I once was...
Looking more at the theory I feel a little safer. The engine is a pump. It will keep pumping the nitrous out of the exhaust as long as the motor is spinning. It is not as though you will get a huge build-up of nitrous in the cylinder.
Also, realistically speaking...the split second that you cut the solenoid is not going to keep all the spray in the airbox and runners from being sucked into the motor.
Just something to think about...
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posted February 25, 2009 06:25 PM
im going to have my window switch shut off about 400 RPM before i shift that way it will have some time to burn up whats in the lines before i shift
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posted February 25, 2009 06:37 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 26 Feb 2009 02:47
Sounds like your gettin it done!
My muzzy system ( dynotune bottles ) never cut out, no problems at all.
I wouldn't worry about the spray, as Shane mentioned the airbox will be full when the ignition is killed anyway.
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posted February 25, 2009 07:14 PM
bouncing the rev limiter or getting excited and dropping a 50 HP shot at 5000 could do alot of damage... thats where I really like a window switch!
Dynotune has very good product and the price point is def. good!
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posted February 25, 2009 07:25 PM
Dubious when you ran the nozzles in the ram air tubes did you add a 1/4 90 degree bend to angel it back toward the air box? i know the ram air effect will force it into the air box but just wondered if you of Lee did that to get more into the air box?
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posted February 25, 2009 07:30 PM
Edited By: dubious on 26 Feb 2009 03:31
Lee will have to answer this, as I used a muzzy nitrous kit, with the dynotune bottles and brackets.... sorry.
probably wouldn't hurt though....
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posted February 25, 2009 08:17 PM
so wha t would be a good window for nitrous?????
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posted February 25, 2009 08:21 PM
7500- 10,600 works for me.
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posted February 25, 2009 08:47 PM
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7500- 10,600 works for me.
and how big of a shot do you spray?
im going to be hitting it with a 50 but its on a progressive controller to mellow it out a little
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posted February 25, 2009 08:51 PM
30hp
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posted February 25, 2009 09:05 PM
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30hp
are you waiting till 2nd gear to hit it?
And also how many MPH do you pick up when you spray?
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posted February 26, 2009 04:46 AM
yeah, second gear and it picked up 5-6mph and a tenth and a half at the time. That was before the Speedohealer and havent had a clean pass since to try it again(low bottle pressure in the cold). It might pick up a couple more mph whenever the weather warms a little. I dont have a controller but the 30 does not have a hit either. It is a Muzzy kit. Spent all the time putting the nitrous stuff in and have probably used it 5-7 times since June of last year.
You be careful with the 50 shot. That thing will rev so fast that the window switch wont even be noticed. I can hardly tell on the 30 because it revs fast too. If you havent used nitrous before you might try running 20-30 shot for a little bit just to get used to it and then jet up if need be. The faster revs will definately make you miss shifts.
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posted February 26, 2009 06:19 AM
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yeah, second gear and it picked up 5-6mph and a tenth and a half at the time. That was before the Speedohealer and havent had a clean pass since to try it again(low bottle pressure in the cold). It might pick up a couple more mph whenever the weather warms a little. I dont have a controller but the 30 does not have a hit either. It is a Muzzy kit. Spent all the time putting the nitrous stuff in and have probably used it 5-7 times since June of last year.
You be careful with the 50 shot. That thing will rev so fast that the window switch wont even be noticed. I can hardly tell on the 30 because it revs fast too. If you havent used nitrous before you might try running 20-30 shot for a little bit just to get used to it and then jet up if need be. The faster revs will definately make you miss shifts.
That is correct I had my window set for 7000- 10,200 and shifting the bike at ~10,600
50HP shot
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posted February 26, 2009 11:15 AM
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yeah, second gear and it picked up 5-6mph and a tenth and a half at the time. That was before the Speedohealer and havent had a clean pass since to try it again(low bottle pressure in the cold). It might pick up a couple more mph whenever the weather warms a little. I dont have a controller but the 30 does not have a hit either. It is a Muzzy kit. Spent all the time putting the nitrous stuff in and have probably used it 5-7 times since June of last year.
You be careful with the 50 shot. That thing will rev so fast that the window switch wont even be noticed. I can hardly tell on the 30 because it revs fast too. If you havent used nitrous before you might try running 20-30 shot for a little bit just to get used to it and then jet up if need be. The faster revs will definately make you miss shifts.
That is correct I had my window set for 7000- 10,200 and shifting the bike at ~10,600
50HP shot
i have a MPS auto shifter do you guys think that will keep up with the shifting ???
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posted February 26, 2009 11:18 AM
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yeah, second gear and it picked up 5-6mph and a tenth and a half at the time. That was before the Speedohealer and havent had a clean pass since to try it again(low bottle pressure in the cold). It might pick up a couple more mph whenever the weather warms a little. I dont have a controller but the 30 does not have a hit either. It is a Muzzy kit. Spent all the time putting the nitrous stuff in and have probably used it 5-7 times since June of last year.
You be careful with the 50 shot. That thing will rev so fast that the window switch wont even be noticed. I can hardly tell on the 30 because it revs fast too. If you havent used nitrous before you might try running 20-30 shot for a little bit just to get used to it and then jet up if need be. The faster revs will definately make you miss shifts.
That is correct I had my window set for 7000- 10,200 and shifting the bike at ~10,600
50HP shot
ive ran lots of nitrous but never on a bike its always been in cars or my trucks that DONT DO WHEELIES at 100+ MPH when your trying to go down the track
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posted February 26, 2009 11:39 AM
I had an air shifter Muzzy system, and it would shift right through the nitrous,
All it takes is the most minute drop in load on the trans... when the kill/ delay box hits i will still shift no problem! 
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