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posted February 26, 2009 03:44 PM
Yup, I am interested, but am busy at work ,
whats your email. will get back at ya.
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posted February 26, 2009 04:06 PM
Shoot me an email here:
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posted February 26, 2009 06:55 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 27 Feb 2009 03:00
I want to get one made with the additional 6 mm spacer seen here.
5mm would actually be better I think, as its a really tight fit right now.
The sliver spacer between the caliper and swingarm it what I need added for spacing, as well as the additional depth added for the brake tab into the axle slot.
I think we are on the same page but just want to make sure.
I like the 07-08 caliper as well.
I will mount mine upside down so I can pull the axle all the way back, lower CG, and I like having the caliper under the arm, as it seems easier to assemble that way 
See what they will do for 2 ? $$$$
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posted February 26, 2009 08:31 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 27 Feb 2009 04:43
They told me it's gonna be a week before they tackle it.
What's better 5 mm or 6 mm added? Mine Exoticycle hanger
measures around 28.7- 28.8 mm in the part where the axle goes through.
I sent them the link to this thread with your pics and they will add the proper
size brake tab too.
Will ask them tomorrow about $$$ and will get back to you.
Shout out to Shane as well if interested 
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posted February 27, 2009 06:36 AM
Edited By: dubious on 27 Feb 2009 14:37
OK,
Mine measures 28.6 + 5.5mm please
here's pics :
28.6 mm caliper hanger
5.9mm outboard spacing now, but a tight fit ....
Thanks!
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posted February 27, 2009 10:43 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 27 Feb 2009 18:44
Lyle,
I'm just summing it all again here.
This is the 07-08 hanger they will use as a starting point.
The base will have 5.5 mm added on the brake nub side to compensate
for the extra spacer you run and the brake nub itself will be on
the opposite side, so you can run your axle all the way back
in the slots and have the hanger below the swingarm.
I will have mine above the swingarm with the brake nub behind the axle
as I'm looking for the shortest wheelbase.
The brake nub (tab) will be their regular size (around 9 mm) and will
not be shortened by the added 5.5 mm to the base. It will be properly
locking in the axle slot as their stock model.
No exact word on the price yet, but will hear from them.
I'm actually deliberating if I should order a few as it will
be a great conversion unit for the gsx-r wheels mod.
Thinking like you would here 
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posted February 27, 2009 10:49 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Feb 2009 18:52
Edit.
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posted February 27, 2009 11:05 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Feb 2009 19:05
Are these the two surfaces you are talking about adding 5.5mm to?:
Are you guys planning to use the latel model GSXR caliper and rotor, or ??
Sorry, but I am not 100% sure of the setup you are after. I intend to use the 220mm GSXR rear rotor and 07-08 GSXR rear caliper. I have a hanger here which I may modify.
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posted February 27, 2009 11:55 AM
yup that is exactly right Shane
07-08 caliper and rotor with 5.5mm added in those exact same spots you are reffering to.
Yours has the brake locator tab on the front already when mounted on top as does the standard exoticycle, theirs is less intrusive to axle position though.
I wonder what spencer would want to make one with the added 5.5mm ?
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posted February 27, 2009 12:02 PM
I'm not sure what he would charge. In my case, I might just have the locator tab extended (small billlet piece welded on?) and then use a spacer.
Not sure. But I'll tell you Lyle...remember when you said "If I had it to do over again....". LOL. I'm looking at all of my spares in the garage thinking..."Oh, for a set of BST's...." BST's are really the only way I would go other than this. Not enough weight savings to justify other aftermarket wheel costs, imo.
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posted February 27, 2009 12:08 PM
Shane,
this is the correct side that needs the extra 5.5 mm.
I noticed that the zx6r and zx10r are running Nissin front calipers and
a Tokico rear and changed my mind. Now I want the gsx-r Tokico like the
one you have, but I'd hate to have to modify the stock hanger with the torsion bar.
I think that the Exoticycle unit with the small brake nub that rides in the axle slots
is a great design and is very light.
Let me know if you're interested in a custom hanger made from them as it's
gonna be at least another week before they tackle the project.
I talked to them a few times now and they understand the gig here and are up
for it. I have their 03-06 gsx-r hanger and it's top notch quality- I had posted a pic
of it in your build thread. Seems like an easy design fix to get the hanger we need
machined. Definately lighter and cleaner looking than a modded oem hanger,
but no final word on the $$$ yet. Just for reference- their billet gsx-r 07-08 hanger
is $125.
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posted February 27, 2009 12:13 PM
quote:
I'm not sure what he would charge. In my case, I might just have the locator tab extended (small billlet piece welded on?) and then use a spacer.
Not sure. But I'll tell you Lyle...remember when you said "If I had it to do over again....". LOL. I'm looking at all of my spares in the garage thinking..."Oh, for a set of BST's...." BST's are really the only way I would go other than this. Not enough weight savings to justify other aftermarket wheel costs, imo.
Shane
Even if you go BST, which I will sooner or later,
you will still have the lighter 220 mm disc, lighter caliper
and lighter hanger for it. Shorter rear brake line as well,
if you orient the caliper above the swingarm.
I still believe it's a win-win situation.
I already paid once for the gsx-r rear wheel to be fitted and now
I'm changing it around again with the gsx-r axle and all the rest
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posted February 27, 2009 12:20 PM
Agreed. This is a good swap, and it helps to have a few folks working on it.
Regarding the hanger, it is going to come down to cost.
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posted February 27, 2009 12:32 PM
quote:
I'm not sure what he would charge. In my case, I might just have the locator tab extended (small billlet piece welded on?) and then use a spacer.
Not sure. But I'll tell you Lyle...remember when you said "If I had it to do over again....". LOL. I'm looking at all of my spares in the garage thinking..."Oh, for a set of BST's...." BST's are really the only way I would go other than this. Not enough weight savings to justify other aftermarket wheel costs, imo.
Shane
I hear ya! LOL
I am still thinking BST within the next year.
I want a wider rear rim for the track, and for the price difference, I just can't justify widening a stock wheel of any sort, plus the 2 way shipping compared to buying a 6.625 BST.
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posted February 27, 2009 12:39 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 27 Feb 2009 20:40
I bought a brand new oem 08 gsx-r 1000 rear brake caliper and hanger
for $35 shipped on eBay
Shane, feel free to shoot me a line here:
sivanovmail@yahoo.com
That hanger will be cheaper if we gang up on the order for sure!
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posted February 27, 2009 01:28 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Feb 2009 21:31
Ok, quick clarification, Lyle:
Your setup is as follows, correct?
1) Brake side stock GSXR wheel spacer coupled with 5.5mm outer spacer.
2) 19.8mm drive side spacer
3) 4mm shim for sprocket
If the above are true...here is the big question: Did your McIntosh arm come setup to use the stock ZX14 spacers? It looks like it, because my arm is also about 10 3/4" between the main spars.
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posted February 27, 2009 03:59 PM
Nice, don't let the dogs loose !
Well done, you've come a long way with Frankie!
Btw, do you still sell the ZX-10 front fender bracket kit for the ZX-14 ? I never managed to get one at the old forum, and would like to get one.
PM me once the pm service is working again, and I'll try to check for replies here. Thanks!
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posted February 28, 2009 12:48 PM
quote:
Ok, quick clarification, Lyle:
Your setup is as follows, correct?
1) Brake side stock GSXR wheel spacer coupled with 5.5mm outer spacer.
2) 19.8mm drive side spacer
3) 4mm shim for sprocket
If the above are true...here is the big question: Did your McIntosh arm come setup to use the stock ZX14 spacers? It looks like it, because my arm is also about 10 3/4" between the main spars.
Shane
Yup, That is completely correct.
again from left to right
1)Drive side wheel spacer,
4mm sprocket spacer
2) wheel
3)stock gsxr wheel to caliper bracket spacer:
4) Caliper bracket
5) outer caliper to right arm spacer: (5.5mm would be better)
Arm measures 10.75 inches wide at axle.
It was built for the stock zx14 wheel and spacing configuration.
My current caliper is a 2006 model.
What is the width on the axle of the 2008 caliper hanger?
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posted February 28, 2009 12:57 PM
Edited By: dubious on 28 Feb 2009 21:36
quote:
Well done, you've come a long way with Frankie!
Btw, do you still sell the ZX-10 front fender bracket kit for the ZX-14 ? I never managed to get one at the old forum, and would like to get one.
PM me once the pm service is working again, and I'll try to check for replies here. Thanks!
Thanks!
yup I have a few left.
my email is eldubois@telus.net if you would like to contact me there.
Thanks,
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posted February 28, 2009 01:00 PM
The hanger I have is around 27mm. I need to order a new caliper tonight.
This is where things start to get a little murky.
Did you use the stock drive side spacer from the GSXR?
I won't be able to mock this up for at least 2 weeks.
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posted February 28, 2009 01:12 PM
No the drive side spacer is not stock.
I had that one made.
PS, the Japanese rarely make stuff in increments smaller than a complete mm, so the machinist, or my vernier may be off slightly.
27mm,
would you mind double checking for us?
this is critical.
I KNOW that the rotor and wheel are identical from 2005-2008.
I have 2 sets of wheels. 1 of each at my disposal.
if the caliper bracket width is different than that difference in dimension between the 2006 and 2008 must be added to the outer spacer.
I know I used the stock GSXR inner spacer in the brake side because I wanted the stock rotor to caliper spacing... thay already engineered it and nothing there needs to be changed.
Thanks,
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posted February 28, 2009 01:14 PM
Why do you need a new caliper?
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posted February 28, 2009 01:19 PM
Why do you need a different caliper?
I thought that your gsx-r setup will do the job.
I'm just gonna go with Lyle's wheel spacer measurements
as I trust his knowledge and doubt that my wheel is centered
any better with my current setup.
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posted February 28, 2009 01:29 PM
I used a lazer level beam and squared off the upper shock mount and the center on the headstay. ( steering head ) running the lazer beam across the center of my shinko( has center line in tread pattern, then again on the bare wheel...
It is within 1mm as far as I can tell, and don' t think it can be done much more accurate.
Stan, I have not been able to check the sprocket alignment with the engine running, to see if the chain climbs the sproket teeth... the 4mm sproket spacer is not finalized but as close as I could get eyballed with the lazer.
See the frt sproket has vary narrow reference positions to guide off, wheras the frame has 2 very definable wide spaced reference points I used to get the wheel center.
I do not see any flaw or fault in my measuring practice, but am always open to suggestions.
2 heads are better than one.
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posted February 28, 2009 01:47 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 28 Feb 2009 21:49
Lyle, I had just checked the measurement when I posted. My caliper is not digital and it reads 1 1/16"....which is right at 27mm.
The caliper is falling apart. I have to rotate the scale each time to align with zero. So that is why I am not excited about it's accuracy. But I am sure it is close enough for this work:
At any rate, I'm not signing up for one of these until I can verify the measurements on my own bike. I will attempt to do so this week (since there seems to be some urgency); the more eyes the better when It comes to safety.
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