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posted February 20, 2009 01:15 AM
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Stan,
I haven't even got them yet.
Got lots of info from Josh, great guy but extremely busy.
They are hand made, and I think supply might be an issue.
One aspect of these batteries is they get lazy and cannot deliver full starting amp is the battery / ambient temperature drops below 32'f, or 0'C.
In any event I am extremely excited about dropping 8 lbs and having additional space for the water injection resevoir, and crankcase breather catch can.
Lyle what are you using for a crankcase breather catch can? I'm looking for a good solution to that prob myself 
  
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posted February 20, 2009 08:59 AM
Funny you should ask as that is one of the things I was going to source out today.
I think this is the single most import ant aspect of a crankcase breather system...
http://www.total-sealrings.com/
Mine gapless rings will be here next week.
That is the only part I am waiting for, and it s my own fault.
It was a last minute decison to run these instead of standard rings.
At less than 10 PSI Bob has managed to prevent puking by running his hose ou the back up to the tail section of his bike. The oil simply runs back inot the engine when hes shuts it down. This sis what he told me he was doing.
That seems to be the simplest most effective way I have heard.
Summit makes a nice catch can cheap too, but a little big and the :
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400304+301560+115&autoview=sku
I like the size if the lines and the overall dimensions of the pingel unit.
Unless you have used the space, it could be mounted beside the battery.
I think thats where mine will be going
here is another type, but I prefer the 1/2 inch lines on the pingel unit over all others
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posted February 20, 2009 09:02 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 20 Feb 2009 17:15
Interesting. All we have on the turbo Busa here is a standard k&n breather. The only time it has ever puked any oil is when it was overfull.
We have run it up to 12 lbs. in the mile; but it has seen 19 psi at the strip with the same setup.
Is this something the 14 is more prone to?
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posted February 20, 2009 09:06 AM
Our breather is not baffled as well as the busa IMO, and i think the increased velocity, and lackof flow direction changes causes more oil to be carried over.
I have seen quite a few turbo bikes running 25-30 lbs boost with BIG catch cans.
A catch can is mandatory for the sanctioned events Iintend to compete in.
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posted February 20, 2009 09:15 AM
I'm sure it's not a bad idea. We've never been required one at Maxton.
You never want to oil your tire and/or the track down, that's for sure.
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posted February 20, 2009 12:53 PM
Who makes the reservoir? Does it mount to the stock 14 master cylinder?
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posted February 20, 2009 02:45 PM
Edited By: dubious on 20 Feb 2009 22:47
Mine is a gsxr rear mastercylinder that took a bit of work to get fitted.
The mount holes are different than the zx14 part.
They made one for the z1000 which is the same rear master as the 14, but it looks to be discontinued.
Expect to wait for 3-4 weeks to get one from Germany, thay have several other designs too
http://www.streetfightersinc.com/BrakeReservoirs.htm
I like the fact that space was free'd up, the resevoir and hose was removed from the tail.
Probably weighs the same as the stock hose and tupperware.
Lots of road race and drag race guys simply run 6" of hose and plug it off at the top.
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posted February 20, 2009 04:50 PM
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posted February 20, 2009 11:55 PM
Edited By: dubious on 21 Feb 2009 08:14
Thanks buddy!
Celebrated my daughters birthday today, so all I got done was reshaping of the seat foam... maybe they'll get it right second time around...LOL
I mean I gave them everything they needed last time but obviously weren't listening closely.
This time they will have more...........
more info, more detail, and more in their EAR! LOL
I don't have proper upholstery foam cutting equipment so all they will have to do is smooth the contour I give them and stitch up a new cover.
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posted February 21, 2009 02:12 AM
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Funny you should ask as that is one of the things I was going to source out today.
I think this is the single most import ant aspect of a crankcase breather system...
http://www.total-sealrings.com/
Mine gapless rings will be here next week.
That is the only part I am waiting for, and it s my own fault.
It was a last minute decison to run these instead of standard rings.
At less than 10 PSI Bob has managed to prevent puking by running his hose ou the back up to the tail section of his bike. The oil simply runs back inot the engine when hes shuts it down. This sis what he told me he was doing.
That seems to be the simplest most effective way I have heard.
Summit makes a nice catch can cheap too, but a little big and the :
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400304+301560+115&autoview=sku
I like the size if the lines and the overall dimensions of the pingel unit.
Unless you have used the space, it could be mounted beside the battery.
I think thats where mine will be going
here is another type, but I prefer the 1/2 inch lines on the pingel unit over all others
Thanks Dub for the info and links  I think I'm gonna go Bobs route for now......he's running the same boost level as me so i'm hoping I'll have the same luck as him 
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posted February 22, 2009 10:07 AM
Killer headache all day yesterday.
Took it easy and got the New Air compressor, Ramsond Plasma / MMA / TIG set up.
Got some new metal working tools.
Basically getting prepared to attemp my own new tail section on Frankenstein, and the Turbo busa I am building.
Bought a digital scale too, so here are some interesting figures:
Stock counterbalancers vs new balance shafts:
Thats 61 oz of counterweight singing around!
the new balance shafts weigh 5.67 oz !
I saved 55.3 oz -or 3 lbs 4oz of rotating mass!
Any idea how much energy is wasted getting them to 11,000 RPM?
Depending on the moment of inertia, the further away from the centrifugal axis, the more enrgy it takes to accelerate them.
I would say this 3 -1/4 lb reduction would be similar to removing 15lbs off the frame from an accelleration standpoint.
They cost approx $1 pr ounce, I think I paid $60 for them!
Worth their weight in Gold !
If I was running a naturally aspirated AND drag racing I would definately consider getting the crank lightened.
I heard and believe 5-7 lbs could be removed from it as well.
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posted February 22, 2009 11:36 AM
The scales are in! 
Now I won't have to buy one myself 
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posted February 22, 2009 09:37 PM
HOLY SHIT! F*CK TIGHT MAN YOUR BIKE IS GONNA BE FAST AS HELL!!!!!!!!!
You just might finally be the guy who can keep up with me, LOL. J/K Nice!
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posted February 25, 2009 08:55 AM
Thanks Rau,
Welcome to the site!
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posted February 25, 2009 09:15 AM
Edited By: dubious on 25 Feb 2009 17:22
Well, I am back at work and have time to post up.
Some more weight info...
Stock:
Old:
New:
Still undecided on the Gilles parts.
In any event I am modifying the rearsets somewhat, and once I run the bike and decide on the final rearset position will be machining off the excess bracket material.
I have sent the top clamp, and the old LSL risers off to be anodized black.
I am thinking of getting the gilles clip ons parts anodized black as well.
The risers I have are 80mm , and I have ordered 60mm, to replace the 80's.
I spent a better part of last weekend getting the plasma cutter/ tig set up, and also setting up the air compressor, prcatising my welding skills and measureing up parts to make a new subframe... I could lose about 5 more lbs back there, and need a new way to fasten the ohlins resevoirs to the subframe...
Shear:
Break:
Tubing / plate bender:
The work bench with the metal tools is on wheels so I can roll it out of the way when not needed.
It took me a long time to get this shop, and a long time to build it.
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posted February 25, 2009 11:37 AM
The shop looks fantastic!
I'm going to weigh some more parts; not sure how much of the bike I want to take apart to do so, however...
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posted February 25, 2009 02:45 PM
Thanks,
Yeah I am pretty stoked...
I started off working outside in the driveway, and the basement 15 yrs ago.
got a garage finally 5 yrs ago, but decided this one would get finnished before I moved the bike and tools into it.
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posted February 25, 2009 03:46 PM
Very nice shop Dubious!! looks like you could eat off that floor!
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posted February 25, 2009 03:53 PM
Edited By: dubious on 25 Feb 2009 23:54
lol
Almost...
I am pretty picky that way though...LOL
I have a Rotty that losses quite a bit of hair.
He takes real good care of the place when I am not around ; )
How is your build coming?
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posted February 25, 2009 03:56 PM
Trust me i know. My wife and I had a rottie...i never saw a dog shed so bad!! We just got a boxer...I still miss my rottie good dogs. Sorry not thread jackin here.
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posted February 25, 2009 04:55 PM
Edited By: dubious on 26 Feb 2009 00:56
More numbers:
Stock piston and wrist pin:
Not sure where the pic with the new piston weight went but I recal it was 20 gr heavier than stock with the tool steel wrist pin
Some good educating reading....
awesome read
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posted February 26, 2009 09:32 AM
Levers:
I did not weigh the CRG and ASV levers before I got the new scale, so I can not provide numbers except that I am confident they were heavier than the Pazzo levers.
Stock:
Pazzo:
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posted February 26, 2009 11:00 AM
Lyle, do you still happen to have the ignition set? I'm interested in how much the ignition lock assembly weighs. Also, if you want to throw the top clamp on the scale separately, that would be great. Thanks.
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posted February 26, 2009 11:42 AM
I do, but I have not seperated them.
I have not ground the rivets off.
Have not weighed them.
Will be home next week.
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posted February 26, 2009 03:36 PM
Lyle,
the pms are still down, but I wanted to ask you if you're interested in a custom
Exoticycle rear caliper hanger for the gsx-r wheel conversion. They will make
one for me that will eliminate the extra 5 mm spacer b/n the hanger and swingarm
and will have the little torsion bar (little knob thing that rides in the axle slot) to run behind
the axle and not infront like on their 07-08 hanger. It will be based on their 07-08 hanger
though as I'm set on having the Tokico caliper that rides above the swingarm.
They quoted me for $200 for my hanger, but I might get them to do better for more than one.
Let me know if you're interested
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