Dark14
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posted January 28, 2009 03:11 PM
custom PCIII map without a dyno?!?
Hi all. This is my first post, on any forum, ever.
I just traded my R1 in for a used ZX14 a couple weeks ago. IT has a Two Brothers slip-on exhaust system, and from the lack of power at around 3,000rpm the secondary flies still in.
I just got my PCIII in a few days ago and they have a premade map for my setup, but i def want to get those flies out of there. They also have a premade map for muzzy slip-on system with the flies OUT.
At first, i was thinking about just using that map because how much diff can the two slip-on systems be? But i noticed that they also have a premade map for muzzy slip-on with the flies still in!
So my question is....... Can i use the "compare maps" feature and compare the changes dyno-jet has made with the muzzy slip-on system with and without the flies, convert that change into a %, and apply those % of change to thier two brothers map to CREATE MY OWN CUSTOM MAP WITHOUT A DYNO?
  
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 28, 2009 03:32 PM
Just put the Muzzy flies out map in it.
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davej
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posted January 28, 2009 04:29 PM
 Edited By: davej on 29 Jan 2009 00:30
Strongly recommend doing it on a dyno where you can read and adjust the mixture at all rpm ranges. You'll run cool as a cucumber and your engine will love you for it. Stock maps suck.
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Dark14
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posted January 28, 2009 05:16 PM
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Just put the Muzzy flies out map in it.
I was deff considering that but i noticed that the muzzy slip-on was a single pipe, and that the exact discription od that map was "muzzy slip-on, stock OR aftermarket airfliter"
With those variables, i thought it might not be as close as could be if i did it the other way.
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kawasakijockey
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posted January 28, 2009 05:17 PM
My bad. I thought the Muzzy would be two canisters.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
2007 ZX-14
1.38 60ft
9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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davej
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posted January 28, 2009 05:28 PM
I haven't the slightest clue what the Muzzy map is like. The map on my turbo is full custom Power Commander III .
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Dark14
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posted January 28, 2009 05:28 PM
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My bad. I thought the Muzzy would be two canisters.
all the muzzys i've seen were single can. Also i just used the compare maps feature with the two bros vs muzzy and it looks like dynojet added just a bit more fuel to the muzzy map in almost all rpm and throtle positions.
So that backs up my thoughts that they were only slowing the air down with 1 can instead of the two bros dual cans.
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bruno nadeau
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posted January 28, 2009 06:08 PM
i got the same setup as you have slip on flies out bmc air filter pc3 usb.premade map are a way out of the track in my case to lean at some place to rich at other place=go dyno.or like i do remove the pc3 and instal a motty afr tuner this thing is amasing build your own maps and compare your result with the build in dataloger.with the self tuner you are always on your best . i use another datalogger to double check the afr tuner and it really work.
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Shane661
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posted January 28, 2009 06:11 PM
All commercial slip-on ZX-14 systems are dual cannister, to my knowledge. Including the Muzzys.
I think any slip-on map, flies-out, will suffice.
Shane
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Bawls
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posted January 28, 2009 07:13 PM
+1
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Dark14
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posted January 28, 2009 07:13 PM
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All commercial slip-on ZX-14 systems are dual cannister, to my knowledge. Including the Muzzys.
I think any slip-on map, flies-out, will suffice.
Shane
Man do i feel stupid. I just googled zx14 muzzy slip on IMAGES and there are tons of pics of dual can slip ons. Thats what i get for just using the WEB search. I guess they want you to buy the full system so thats the pic they use the most.
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