messenger1
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posted October 23, 2008 01:47 AM
Help! ZX14 maps required
Hi all. I now have most of the pieces needed to transform my stocker 2008 ZX14 into something a little more gnarly. My wife ( bless that long suffering woman!) bought me a Hindle Carbon fibre 4-1 for my b-day  ) and I've purchased a PCIII, speedo healer, K&N, 43/16 sprockets and fresh chain. I hope to be mounting all after pulling the flies this weekend.
Problem : Hindle does not supply maps, the same dealership I bought the bike at was the purchase point for the Hindle and THEY don't have maps, Power Commander does NOT have maps for this combo and I do not have a shop with a Dyno in my area (Ontario Canada between Ottawa & Montreal QC)
So until I get the bike to Montreal (probably not till next spring at this point of our riding season) for a proper dynotuning, I need a map. Hindle tech support has been of no help, no response thus far from Dynojet either. Anyone have a map they could sell me , or a suggestion on where I can find one?
I considered using a map from PC for another combination for the ZX14 (Muzzys Akrapovic etc) but am unsure of the similarities in flow properties between various manufacturers. I'm just out of warranty and would hate to blow this thing up due to an overly lean or otherwise potentialy engine killing condition.
Any suggestions?? (I know I know, shoulda bought it from Brocks...I would have but can't look a gift wife err horse in the mouth!)
TIA!
   
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lietoome
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posted October 23, 2008 02:11 AM
Is the header on the hindle stepped(race)? Or is it standard hindle? I'd throw a dynojet map in it and call it good.
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MJ
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posted October 23, 2008 02:14 AM
Try some other full system 4-1 maps from the dynjojet site. Full systems aren't all that much different. You can probably find a map you like just fine Just be sure its a flies out map 
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messenger1
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posted October 23, 2008 02:52 AM
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Try some other full system 4-1 maps from the dynjojet site. Full systems aren't all that much different. You can probably find a map you like just fine Just be sure its a flies out map
I considered that, but the only flies out maps available on the dynojet site are for 2006-2007 models....what are the odds they will be the same as required by the 08 os?
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lietoome
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posted October 23, 2008 04:17 AM
There is not enough difference in the maps once you pull the flies. I'd take MJ's advice and not even worry about it. Just get it tuned when you get a chance.
Is your header pipe stepped on the hindle or is it the same diameter from the headers to the collector? If you have the race hindle with stepped header tubes, you may want to find a map for a simular pipe.
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billeason
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posted October 23, 2008 04:31 AM
Run the full akrapovic map if you have the race hindle,and the muzzy map if you have the std hindle. I have dyno'ed quite a few like this and its real close...... Bill
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messenger1
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posted October 23, 2008 04:50 AM
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Run the full akrapovic map if you have the race hindle,and the muzzy map if you have the std hindle. I have dyno'ed quite a few like this and its real close...... Bill
Thats the answer I needed! Thanks all who replied and a big thanks to you Bill.
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CrotchRocket
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posted October 23, 2008 05:32 AM
Did you install it yet or have it installed already???
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messenger1
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posted October 23, 2008 05:54 AM
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Did you install it yet or have it installed already???
I will be installing it this weekend...so not yet.
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CrotchRocket
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posted October 23, 2008 06:07 AM
So bring it back for the Brocks genIII system and you'll get the maps...
It says Brocks street system by Hindle on the plate!!!
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messenger1
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posted October 26, 2008 02:34 AM
Zx14 Maps required
Well I've now installed the PCII and sexyashell Hindle Carbon Fiber exhaust. Removed my secondaries, stripped 2 of the screws but fixed that pretty easily with plumbers putty, a magnet and a custom cut drill bit (anyone in a similar oh F*** situ feel free to pm me for the details!)
And, after some wiggling and swearing managed to get the PC unit under the seat (again, anyone needing details feel free to pm and ask how!)
The shocker was the weight savings, stock full exhaust system 37.4 lbs, Hindle with CF can 8.3lbs!!!! I verified this on a Postal certified scale.
The pipe fit like a glove and the can looks awesome.
I'm still having some mapping issues, the unit will not accept any of the 06-07 secondaries out maps I got from DynoJet. I cannot find any secondaries out maps for an 08 (any pipe/filter config) Does anyone out here have a map they would share/sell me?? I'm thinking any aftermarket exhaust system, flies out, stock or aftermarket filter map is worth a try at this point.
TIA!
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AZ ZX14
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posted October 26, 2008 06:46 AM
PM sent.
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2008 ZX-14
Flies out
PCIII / USB
Brocks Alien head
Puig DB Screen
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messenger1
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posted November 05, 2008 05:02 PM
Firstly, thanks all for the input and especially AZ Zx14 for the map!
This has got to be the easiest instant power bolt on job I have ever had to perform hp for hp!!
Has anyone else weighed their stock exhaust? My stock system was 37.4lbs, my Hindle Carbon fiber can and thin wall headers weigh a whopping 8.3lbs! 30lbs off a sub 500lb bike ain't a bad Saturday!
The bike now runs like a true superbike, sounds sweeeeeet, and what an amazing difference over flies in stock exhaust. It is contrary to one popular theory, NOT a bitch to ride in traffic/city conditions. i held off on the gearing swap, but will do that one shortly.
heres a short clip of what it sounds like...
http://s384.photobucket.com/albums/oo290/messengerzx14/?action=view¤t=ZXHindle038.flv
again thanks all for the input!
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messenger1
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posted November 05, 2008 05:06 PM
ahhh guess I should have read the Pic posting for dummies thread more carefully....
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bruno nadeau
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posted November 15, 2008 02:35 PM
i just remove my powercommander 1 week ago and instal a motty afr tuner it is not a plug and play but it work so well self mapping is very fast about 3 hours in the road you can see the result of your mapping in the software and in the road and you are mapping with the ram air in effect.i am very impressed .bruno sherbrooke quebec
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