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posted October 05, 2008 11:17 AM
Did I blow my engine???
Please tell me you can help. I know there's hundreds of years of expierence on this board and I trust what you all have to say.
I went out today for a little ride. Well, I got to my friends house about 1/4 mile away and saw that the oil site glass had some milky color to the oil. Pics are worth a thousand words and I don't type that well so here.
As far as how it acts...normal. No ticks, taps, knocks, nothing. No smoke. It does die the first time it's cranked but it's pretty chilly up here, about 40 deg or so.
I also took off the oil filler cap and there was foam on it and it smelled like oil fuel and antifreeze. I bought the bike in May, and did a proper brake in by the book, 600 mile check up for $300 and take exceptional care of it. I don't race, wheelie or any other shinanigans. I don't know what could have caused this or even what it is. Oh yeah, I did change the oil a month or so ago with Motul 20w50 motorcycle specific oil. The bike has 2399 miles on it.
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kimski2001
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posted October 05, 2008 11:44 AM
looks like a head gasket to me.
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smokinzx14
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posted October 05, 2008 11:45 AM
 Edited By: smokinzx14 on 5 Oct 2008 19:46
Well it could be blow or leaking head gasket but zx14s are not known for that ...Could be the cool temps building up mosture in the crank cases ....You may have to ride the bike a little more, like 50 miles and not just to a friends house ..
If you got it in May you should be covered under the factory warranty... Take it to the dealer and let them have a look ..
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posted October 05, 2008 12:10 PM
I do plan on taking it in to the stealership however I don't trust them nor there competency. I want to know more of what it possibly could be so I don't get jacked around to much. So what would driving further do and what should I be looking for on the ride?
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posted October 05, 2008 12:38 PM
what Smokin said.
Very likely condensation.
You can pressure test the coolantbsystem for leaks if your worried about fining out the hard way.
Mine has done that a couple times. It was condensation.
Take out for a good long ride and get it really warm. It will boil off.
There are dye additives you acn put in the antifreeze, and the dye will show up under a black light if your burning antifreeze.
Is the coolant bottle low, and does it fill when the bike gets hot.
Generally the combustion pressure can back out the coolant and cause the level to overflow when the bike gets warm
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gilberjj
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posted October 05, 2008 01:12 PM
Looks like head gasket.
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posted October 05, 2008 03:02 PM
If I recall, the motul is yellow/green oil? If it has a real sweet smell then you know it is antifreeze. Drain the oil, see what rises to the top, if anything.
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posted October 05, 2008 04:50 PM
I was mistaken about the oil. I actually used mobil 1 20w50. I can definately smell antifreeze and fuel in the oil.
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posted October 05, 2008 06:07 PM
Living in North Dakota, I see this a lot. It's from the extreme temperature changes. It can get down to 40 degrees at night and up to 80 the next day. I would see that in my 12 once in a while. It never missed a beat. It had over 12,000 miles on it when I sold it and it ran like a charm. I've seen this in my 14, too. I use synthetic oil and change it every 1,000 miles. Up here, in the winter, when you pull the dipstick out of your car engine, there's always white condensation on it. My little Nissan probably has over 200,000 miles on it (don't know, the odometer only works when it wants to, never when it's cold outside) and it runs great. I see this white stuff on the dipstick and on the inside of the oil cap. I'm not worried about it.
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posted October 05, 2008 09:11 PM
Nothing to worry about, listen the comments Smokin, Dubious, and mokaw mentioned.
I've seen the same thing on my bike in cold temps.
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posted October 05, 2008 10:55 PM
I have seen this emulsion many time in engines which don't get up to temperature, often a result of short journeys. There will always be some water vapour in the oil but it usually boils off when the engine is good and hot.
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posted October 06, 2008 06:31 AM
Thanks all. I'm going to listen to everyone and change oil and take it for a good long ride. We'll go from there.
I'm from the south, Alabama to be exact, and we don't get stuff like this down there. Learning new stuff everyday.
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posted October 06, 2008 08:59 AM
I just changed the oil. It totally makes sense...Lately I have only been driving to work and back which is only a mile away. It has been pretty chilly here around 40 deg or so. Thank you for all your help. I hope the new oil and a good excuse to take her for a long ride will make it right. Will the foamy stuff on the site glass ever go away?
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posted October 06, 2008 09:01 AM
""Did I blow my engine???""
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posted October 06, 2008 12:21 PM
After a good 30+ minute ride that sight glass should be perfectly clear. If not, especially after an oil change, you got bigger problems. I'd call it a 80% chance its just condensation...
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posted October 07, 2008 10:19 AM
^^^ that's funny..... cause I would call it an 81% chance
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posted October 07, 2008 04:53 PM
After about a 30min ride I parked her and checked the oil, and...it looked great!!! Thank y'all.
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