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posted June 08, 2008 06:17 AM
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Gearing/Wheelbase Suggestions for 1/4?
I'm getting ready to set up my new 14 for the drag strip. I weigh 230 suited.
Lately I've been riding a K3 sitting at about 61". It is only +2 on the gearing. I can launch it around 7.5k, just snapping the throttle open, with plenty of rpm/clutch to go. My 60's are pretty slow, mid 1.6's. I am sure some gear would help, but it is my gf's bike, and I need to get the 14 setup for me.
Any suggestions on wheelbase, gearing, and launch rpm? I can really hit the k3 pretty hard (for me, at least) without worry...and I am looking for a setup on the 14 that is very controllable, even at the risk of losing a little ET.
The bike will have a pipe, pc, and flies removed.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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posted June 08, 2008 06:27 AM
Shane Set it 62 inches , I have run my fastest pass at 62 inches.... 62 is still great for the street .. 230 pounds you will need a little more gear than me >16/41 .. You may need a 16/43...... 5500 stage snap the clutch out pretty quick , as soon as the clutch is out pin the throttle ...If you get your 60s in the 1.40 range you should be able to make some low 9.20 passes maybe better ..
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posted June 08, 2008 03:32 PM
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Shane Set it 62 inches , I have run my fastest pass at 62 inches.... 62 is still great for the street .. 230 pounds you will need a little more gear than me >16/41 .. You may need a 16/43...... 5500 stage snap the clutch out pretty quick , as soon as the clutch is out pin the throttle ...If you get your 60s in the 1.40 range you should be able to make some low 9.20 passes maybe better ..
Thanks for the ideas. That should work out perfectly. I already have most of the parts for that setup either here or on the way. 
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posted June 08, 2008 03:58 PM
i did the best at like 63.5 ... i went 5.700 on pump gas in the eighth... whatever works for yah i tried 67 spun all the time 65 spun... 63...64 works fine
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posted June 08, 2008 04:29 PM
if you get 1.40's 60', and weight 230 you will be doing wheelies with 62", lighter riders can get away with shorter wheelbase's.
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posted June 08, 2008 07:42 PM
I'm 224 in shorts, 16.43 gearing seems to work for me. gone 6.0's in the 1/8th. I'm at 65in and about to try 63.5-64. 65 seems like a little too much. Leaving around 3K
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posted June 08, 2008 09:46 PM
I agree with Smokin, i'd go 62 inches if I were you............as for the gearing Lietome is a big guy and he runs 17/45 and loves it for street and strip.
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posted June 08, 2008 09:48 PM
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i did the best at like 63.5 ... i went 5.700 on pump gas in the eighth... whatever works for yah i tried 67 spun all the time 65 spun... 63...64 works fine
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posted June 09, 2008 03:18 AM
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I agree with Smokin, i'd go 62 inches if I were you............as for the gearing Lietome is a big guy and he runs 17/45 and loves it for street and strip.
I would go with the max on your extensions, if you go shorter and have a wheelie problem you will be buying a new chain or adding links, you can always take links out, im 210 and had 16-44 leaving at 7-8, at my weight 16-48 was perfect for my 14.
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posted June 09, 2008 03:40 AM
At 64" I had traction problems at some track without almost flattening the tire and losing mph. At 62" the traction is back and so are the low 5.70s.
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posted June 09, 2008 08:45 AM
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At 64" I had traction problems at some track without almost flattening the tire and losing mph. At 62" the traction is back and so are the low 5.70s.
you riding a zx14?
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posted June 09, 2008 09:06 AM
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I agree with Smokin, i'd go 62 inches if I were you............as for the gearing Lietome is a big guy and he runs 17/45 and loves it for street and strip.
I would go with the max on your extensions, if you go shorter and have a wheelie problem you will be buying a new chain or adding links, you can always take links out, im 210 and had 16-44 leaving at 7-8, at my weight 16-48 was perfect for my 14.
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Wheelie thats a good point, also did the 16/48 gearing help just your 60 foot but cost you a little MPH or did you gain everywhere with that gearing and did you have to fight wheelies with that gearing?
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posted June 09, 2008 09:22 AM
Edited By: CrotchRocket on 9 Jun 2008 10:27
Shane, what pipe are you getting???...I say leave it the stock wheelbase, stock gearing with a pipe, pc, flies removed, lowered until you get used to it with a few 9.50-9.40 passes, then make it 63 inches with 16-43 and when you get use to it and start wheelying then add a few links to the chain to 64 inch wheelbase...Dont forget to get a Catalyst seat...See you at the next seminar!!!
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posted June 09, 2008 09:26 AM
I was at 16-44 when I sold mine, I never got the 48, my videos let you here what the bike is doing, it was needing more gear, the rpm would drop pretty far at the 60', Richcraft runs the 48, revs just right on the launch, his 14 didnt have any more wheelie problem with the gearing, mph around 120-122, lighter riders can get away with tall gearing, big guys need more. and yes the lower gearing will help "your" 60'
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posted June 09, 2008 10:09 AM
Edited By: shane661 on 9 Jun 2008 11:10
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Shane, what pipe are you getting???...I say leave it the stock wheelbase, stock gearing with a pipe, pc, flies removed, lowered until you get used to it with a few 9.50-9.40 passes, then make it 63 inches with 16-43 and when you get use to it and start wheelying then add a few links to the chain to 64 inch wheelbase...Dont forget to get a Catalyst seat...See you at the next seminar!!!
Hey Rick...
I'm getting a Muzzy M14, should be here tomorrow.....
I didn't take the 14 to the seminar last Friday, but I just squeaked her Gixxer into the 9's with a 9.999.
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posted June 09, 2008 10:28 AM
"Lately I've been riding a K3 sitting at about 61". It is only +2 on the gearing. I can launch it around 7.5k, just snapping the throttle open, with plenty of rpm/clutch to go. My 60's are pretty slow, mid 1.6's. I am sure some gear would help, but it is my gf's bike, and I need to get the 14 setup for me."
SHANE, what's a K3?
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posted June 09, 2008 11:02 AM
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"Lately I've been riding a K3 sitting at about 61". It is only +2 on the gearing. I can launch it around 7.5k, just snapping the throttle open, with plenty of rpm/clutch to go. My 60's are pretty slow, mid 1.6's. I am sure some gear would help, but it is my gf's bike, and I need to get the 14 setup for me."
SHANE, what's a K3?
2003 Gixxer 1000. Sorry about that..
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posted June 09, 2008 11:31 AM
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I was at 16-44 when I sold mine, I never got the 48, my videos let you here what the bike is doing, it was needing more gear, the rpm would drop pretty far at the 60', Richcraft runs the 48, revs just right on the launch, his 14 didnt have any more wheelie problem with the gearing, mph around 120-122, lighter riders can get away with tall gearing, big guys need more. and yes the lower gearing will help "your" 60'
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Wheelie, how does the 2008 Busa compare to the 14............is there more torque, and how does it launch compared to the 14, the 14 is a unique bike to launch IMHO, most bikes you slide the clutch, the 14 you kinda pop it between 4000-5000 and go WOT real quick.
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posted June 09, 2008 12:12 PM
Edited By: CrotchRocket on 9 Jun 2008 13:17
Nice Shane, I know you felt real good getting into the 9s !!!
What's your new ET goal now??? 
Did you order an adjustable rear link, thats best for the 14 so you can get low without scraping the undertail...I'll help you adjust the rear shock!!!
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posted June 09, 2008 12:40 PM
Edited By: shane661 on 9 Jun 2008 13:52
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Nice Shane, I know you felt real good getting into the 9s !!!
What's your new ET goal now???
Did you order an adjustable rear link, thats best for the 14 so you can get low without scraping the undertail...I'll help you adjust the rear shock!!!
I ordered a set of threaded lowering links, do I need something else?
My new goal is to run some 9's on the 14, at the 7/18 Jason Miller Seminar. I should have it somewhat prepped by then.
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posted June 09, 2008 12:55 PM
Shane....Last year i was 240-245 pounds suited. I ran 16/44 gearing sitting at 65 inchs with a 1.41-1.43 60's. I would have to say i would rather have the bike 60-63 inchs and can run more air pressure then longer and worry about traction. It's all going to come down to how good your track is...if it's good go longer...if it sucks go shorter. Just remember the shorter it is the more clutchs your going to go thru. "and before i hear it...yes a larger guy will eat alot more clutchs than a smaller guy will" If you run in the 1.4's you will see 9.20-9.30's depending on sea level/humitidy/wind....
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posted June 09, 2008 01:08 PM
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At 64" I had traction problems at some track without almost flattening the tire and losing mph. At 62" the traction is back and so are the low 5.70s.
you riding a zx14?
wee
Yep, we went to Mooresville,NC a couple of weeks ago for Lee's Event and I ran 12~15 5.70s. I went a 5.806 on Silver08's 14, but he has a straight link on it and I could 60ft it as well.
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posted June 09, 2008 01:14 PM
Edited By: Wheelie on 9 Jun 2008 14:25
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I was at 16-44 when I sold mine, I never got the 48, my videos let you here what the bike is doing, it was needing more gear, the rpm would drop pretty far at the 60', Richcraft runs the 48, revs just right on the launch, his 14 didnt have any more wheelie problem with the gearing, mph around 120-122, lighter riders can get away with tall gearing, big guys need more. and yes the lower gearing will help "your" 60'
wee
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Wheelie, how does the 2008 Busa compare to the 14............is there more torque, and how does it launch compared to the 14, the 14 is a unique bike to launch IMHO, most bikes you slide the clutch, the 14 you kinda pop it between 4000-5000 and go WOT real quick.
seems to be equal to my 14. its easy ti launch, maybe a little more torque, gearing I went -1 in the front and + 5 in the rear, I could have went + 7 on the rear
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posted June 09, 2008 03:51 PM
That's A LOT of gear, are you footshifting ?
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posted June 09, 2008 04:07 PM
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That's A LOT of gear, are you footshifting ?
MPS autoshift.
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