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Reaper


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posted March 20, 2008 07:59 PM        
These are mine:










Not had it dyno'd as of yet but will eventually...
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posted March 21, 2008 05:13 AM        
NIce.... bike looks great!
I like tiforce / orient stuff, excellent quality, great looks, and great performance!
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posted March 21, 2008 05:15 AM        
quote:
quote:

see , rubbing works 2 ways....
are you feelin the luv yet?

do ya need a hug?.... or do you prefer reacharounds? LOL



OMG .... ?


No I am not ,
I worship the pussy!

I'm just just teasin stix! LOL
he seems slightly homophobic... LOL
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posted March 21, 2008 07:15 PM        
So there i was nailing this guy in the ass. I went for the reach around and he was already hard so i asked him... What are you some kind of fag?

That was the second time i got aids.

-Dubious-


lol, Just kiddin' there buddy. I know that you don't have aids.
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posted March 22, 2008 04:17 AM        
Reaper, Sweeet looking bike, Congrats!

Question: when you change the cans and install the slip ons, you must also do other mods in the bike (PCIII, flies, etc.)?

Thanks & Regards,
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posted March 22, 2008 04:18 AM        
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So there i was nailing this guy in the ass. I went for the reach around and he was already hard so i asked him... What are you some kind of fag?

That was the second time i got aids.

-Dubious-


lol, Just kiddin' there buddy. I know that you don't have aids.


LMFAO
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Reaper


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posted March 22, 2008 05:44 AM        
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Reaper, Sweeet looking bike, Congrats!

Question: when you change the cans and install the slip ons, you must also do other mods in the bike (PCIII, flies, etc.)?

Thanks & Regards,
David


I already had the PCIII because I had removed the secondary flies, but according to Ti-Force they are just a direct swap for the original mufflers no other mods needed, if you leave the flies in of course.

I am using the no flies map from the Dynojet website for normal day to day running, shoots a small flame sometimes decelerating through 3.5k rpm but other than that doesn't run too badly. I used a slightly different map when I go to track days, mainly to scare the crap out of the guys behind me when they get too close in the corners. The odd two foot flame does wonders in keeping people away from me. Damn pretty boys and their 1000cc toys... Custom map comming soon after I get back from 3 weeks interstate.

Reaper
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posted March 22, 2008 07:00 AM        
Dubious I'm only homophobic since I met you. Think there's a coincedence?

Yeah, I'm about as gay as the next guy. As long as he's a straight, only likes girls type of guy whose idea of a threesome involves 2 girls and a guy only! Heh heh I have had gay friends, and been offered to "convert" from some pretty hot guys but it just wasnt there for me. Had to yell "WOOHOO!!" when I turned them down and then apologize for it. lol

I can give you some phone numbers if you're interested, though, Dubious.
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jeff martin


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posted March 22, 2008 07:26 AM        
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Hey Jeff, is that a pic of your bike?, those Yoshi's looks great & neat. Which model are they?
Thanks & Regards,
David



Yes it my bike..There the TRC all stainless slip-ons..I got them from a local shop..But they have a web site and there around $600.00 at www.morepowerracing.com..Great sounding pipes with differnt baffels all the way down to stock sound if you want..I was a little afraid to buy a system due to the fact that local laws have been trying to get changed so loud pipes would be illegal..And if that happens i have the option of putting the quiet ones in the pipes..and the baffels are only $50.00..I have the mid range ones in it now and its pretty quiet until you crank it on and it sounds perfect..at cruise speeds its almost stock quiet..And what can you say about yosh quaility they have making pipes before most of us were born..Good luck !!
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posted March 22, 2008 07:31 AM        
ah, no thanks.
Not interested !

This converstaion has taken a quick turn for the worse...

stix tellin us proudly about some doods he considers "hot" .... LOL , trying to smoke his pole....

dang. way outa control....




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posted March 22, 2008 07:36 AM        
can you say off topic?? Well not completely. Both topics involve an exhaust.

On the proper subject: there has to be a way to compare exhaust sound AND relative loudness. I'm thinking have a couple cars go by on video, and then the bike to compare how loud it is. If interested in the Two Brothers, I can post up a video maybe monday of that if you want. Interested?
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posted March 22, 2008 07:56 AM        
Damn, I was lookin at those tieforce highmounts, and they look really nice.
I have to say, I am not a fan of the set up scorpion sells for the 14,

the tapered mid and end pipe (gsxr/1000 ) part sadie has on hers looks HOT too!
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posted March 22, 2008 10:05 AM        
Well finally it seems Stix & Dub went back on topic track, no more stuff

Jeff, I loved the look on these Stainless/CF Yoshi's:






Price: $783.99 + shipping

Their description on these is the following:

"Made famous by 6 time AMA super bike champion Mat Mladin. The TRC is a race prove exhaust that falls second to none. Featuring a tri oval design, and a trick cone shaped end cap, with an easily removable low volume insert. This slip on system is easily installed with our step by step directions, and offers the quality and performance you would expect from Yoshimura."

The removable low insert is the one used to atenuate noise?
Thanks & Regards (no hugz........you all know why)
David
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posted March 22, 2008 10:56 AM        
I also like the look of the carbon ones but as all carbon fiber pipes they just dont hold up well..Scratches and so forth..Carbon fiber isn't very heat resistant and can get brittle over years of heat cycles..I can always polish stainless..And remember carbon has almost zero impact resistance only strong when subjected to tensil pressure ..Saw a carbon pipe crack into 4 pieces just being dropped in a parking lot..No thanks.
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posted March 22, 2008 12:10 PM        
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! thanks Jeff.....GOSH! Bye CF, hello Stainless.

What about these ones, which one you think is the best choice:

Stainless ($602 + shipping):


Or Titanium /Stainless ($785 + shipping):


Thanks & Best Regards,
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posted March 22, 2008 01:14 PM        
The titanium looks a little dull to me..But if you are looking for more of a overall matt finish on your bike then they look great..but only my opinion..The titanium will hold up better than any type of steel..But there again it will change color if you buy it in a cheap pipe..the yoshi's are buildt under very high standards and you wont have a problem with them changing color..One advantage of using titanium is heat dissipation they cool off really fast..My stainless one's also cool quickly but not like titanium..You know i looked at must of been 15 pipes in person before i bought the yosh pipes..there welds fit and finish are beautiful..Good luck..
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posted March 23, 2008 04:56 AM        Edited By: BIGZXDADDY on 23 Mar 2008 05:57
ti- flavored trc's, great street pipe especially if you don't wan't to wear ear plugs every time you ride


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Bawls


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posted March 23, 2008 07:49 AM        
Go with the two bro's and put the quiet inserts in them. By going with a 4-2 system, you're basically going for looks anyway and the two bros IMO are the best looking pipes out there. Maybe it's just me, but I think that the end cap on the yoshi is fugly. I say don't be a Vagine and go for the 4-1. It'll save some weight, look better (imo) and make way more power. If you've got the money, why not.... Right? If you're afraid of making more power, you've already bitten off more than you can chew.
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posted March 23, 2008 10:20 AM        
The caps on the end of the yosh pipes are there for a reason not just looks..it vents heat away from the out side of the can reducing internal temps "hence" divirting gases out the back of the pipe quicker and at the same time keeping the outside of the cans from getting smokin hot like most pipes..So when your passenger "hot chick if your lucky" is riding with you it will also keep shoes from melting on the pipe..Two brothers are a decent pipe also i had a 4-1 on my CBR929..But they where secondary quaility compared to the yosh..Fit and finish..
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posted March 23, 2008 11:49 AM        
If they were there for looks, then they wouldn't sell lol that's for damn sure. I guess maybe i've just been raised around the drag strip. I'll take superior performance over fit and finish. For the gains you're going to get, you might as well find a pipe that looks and sounds good if you're going to go with slip ons. If the yosh is that quiet, it's probably not flowing as fast as the other pipes are anyway. Maybe i'm just biased in my opion of yoshimura exhausts after racing in the dirt my entire life and always seeing them fall short. As for the whole 4-2 thing, is anyone on here running D&D's? I've got quite a few friends that run them on their smaller bikes and one with them on a busa and they look and sound good. Not sure about the numbers that they're putting down though.
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posted March 23, 2008 12:25 PM        
I know what your saying..But for me and most people a 3 hp gain on a rocket doesnt really mean much..But if your shaving 10ths of seconds i can see the point..I just had so many bikes that where 4 into 1, that a 4 into 2 is a nice change.. looks good on both sides.. Well they gotta be doing something right, they have been making pipes for longer than any other company i can think of..They were the first to offer aftermarket pipes for bikes back in the 60's..And i have never had a problem with there customer service..Had a pipe that formed a crack in a weld on a GS1150E had it for three years, i sent it back for a repair est and 3 weeks later had a new pipe they never even called me..To me that says something..Take Care !
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posted March 23, 2008 03:07 PM        
Thanks BigzxDaddy, your bike looks SWEEEEEET! Loved those Ti-TRC's, I think I will definitively go with the Yosh's (thanks Bawls, but I prefer Yoshi's look and as far as I'm sitting in the world's ass -Chile, away from anywhere- I rather go with someone who makes things good and offer a good care for their customers as Jeff mentioned).

Jeff, thanks again for all the help and advising, that also goes to Dub, Bawls, Stix, BidzxDaddy, Reaper , Quick, Slates, Drew, Hotzxrod, BusaJack, Silver8, Bigdtd, Lietoome, LeoVince, and the rest of the gang. I'm very grateful that you guys took the time and helped me with this topic.
Hugz (not for U Stix.......here we go again ) & Very Best Regards All,
David


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posted September 01, 2009 11:42 AM        Edited By: ZX Soul on 1 Sep 2009 20:04
Hey Guy, check this site out - these are nice slip-ons! But ja I agree you can't go wrong with Yoshi's. Good luck!

http://secure.compwerkes.com/Categories.bok?category=Exhaust%3AKawasaki

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