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posted March 19, 2008 10:16 AM
$699.25 + $85 shipping......sounds good, right?
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posted March 19, 2008 10:19 AM
KikonZX14,
Do a search on the M4 retro drag pipe on this site. There were pics posted and I believe the individual had a hard time fitting the system to his 14.
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posted March 19, 2008 10:24 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 19 Mar 2008 11:25
IMO....your crazy!
I am selling my smeg for less than that.
Hell the maps you get are worth gold!
proper tuning must be hard to come by down there?
a good map is priceless!
either way, you won't hurt my feelings! 
stix's already hurt the last one I had....  :P
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posted March 19, 2008 10:27 AM
Also, they are incredibly loud. Your local police force will hear you coming from miles away, and you will HAVE TO wear earplugs or suffer ringing in the ears. My Two Brothers require earplugs if I dont have the optional $80 baffles in, and the M4's are even louder.
Also: spend a little more and get a full exhaust!! Come on man, if you can spend $700 for slip-ons!!! just get the full exhaust for another $150-$200 more. Or by used of ebay or Craigslist.
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posted March 19, 2008 10:33 AM
what the hell my post didnt POST!
In short: Sorry about stepping on your last feeling like that Dube, thought it was a slug..
I'll sell Kikon my Two Brothers for $450 and I'll buy your exhaust Dubious. :?
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posted March 19, 2008 10:35 AM
Kikon, Your answer to a new system for your 14 just arrived... check the "Brocks new Short Meg coming soon" thread. They're here!!!
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posted March 19, 2008 11:22 AM
Thanks Stick & Dubious, will continue my research on the subject. Hey Stick, the Two Brothers you've mentioned is 4-2-1 or 4-2-2? I ask cause I just found this:
Dual slip-ons includes mufflers and mid-pipes to mount to stock headers
M2 (small oval) polished aluminum mufflers with magnesium endcap
Two Bros pipes are known for a deep, throaty sound
Photo not necessarily of the exact system described
Free 48-state shipping
PART# 005-1490406DV STREET:Exhaust:Two Brothers
DESCRIPTION
Simply unbolt your existing exhaust mufflers and bolt on a Two Brothers Racing canister for even more power, not to mention an enormous weight savings. The all new TBR V.A.L.E. dual slip-on system for the ZX-14R unsurpassed craftsmanship and improved performance. These are just a few of the benefits that you gain by adding one of the all new M-2 slip-on exhaust systems to your bike. By reducing the weight, improving the horsepower and torque, our new slip-on for the new ZX-14R is exactly what you need for unlocking all that your new bike has to offer. Includes two mufflers, mid-pipes and all required hardware.
The Two Brothers Racing M style canisters feature a magnesium end cap that is angled to point in a direction suitable to the motorcycle's design. The end cap is easily removable with gold anodized Allen screws, allowing access to an optional gold anodized P1-R insert that quiets the exhaust note with no significant loss in power. The P1-Rs are $29.95 (each) and can be added to the purchase price, if desired. There is also a gold anodized ring that separates the canister body from the end cap adding to the trick and unique look of the muffler. Their M series mufflers come in two sizes, the M2 (small oval) and M5 (large oval) for most bikes. The M2 measures 4.85 by 3.75 inches and the M5 5.375 by 4 inches. They are vertically mounted for most side-muffler designs and horizontal for many undertail applications. For some bikes, they do a C4 round muffler that measures 4.5 inches in diameter with an aluminum turn-down endcap. There are no performance or sound differences between the sizes, it is purely for personal preference. Most M series mufflers use the V.A.L.E. (Variable Axis Locking Exhaust) mounting system that securely mounts the canister to the mid section without springs for a more secure, leak-free fit. Canisters are available in polished (chrome-like) aluminum finish, flat metal finished titanium and their distinctive triangular filament wound carbon fiber. The carbon fiber cans also absorb heat, making them much likely to burn skin or heat body work. More information on their mufflers can be obtained here:
http://www.twobros.com/Exhaust/index.htm
Two Brothers exhausts are known for producing a deep, throaty sound. They have sound clips of their exhaust mounted on several bikes that can be heard here:
http://www.twobros.com/Cust_Service/Sound_Clips/
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Thanks Quick, will check on those.
Best Regards all,
David
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posted March 19, 2008 11:38 AM
How about these Akrapovic(Kawasaki ZX14 ZZR14 Akrapovic Pipes Slip Ons Ti 06 07)?
GOSH! They also have Yoshimura's, Jardine's, Two Brothers, slip ons, all in pairs (CF, Stainless, Titanium).....I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve.....
It's going to be a real difficult choice to make...OMG
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posted March 19, 2008 01:47 PM
Edited By: dubious on 19 Mar 2008 14:48
my exhaust is NOT percievably any louder than a slip on set, until you twist it......
moderate throttle and load on the engine is same as slip ons I have compared it to.
ITS WHEN YOU HIT IT!
it doesnot fall on its face at 9300, like slip ons or stock either....it rips into the next time zone!
all the help I have given ppl here, and they bash my shit ! ?
a short meg will make like 1 hp more, and cost double btw...
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posted March 19, 2008 02:27 PM
What the hell no one even mentioned Yoshimura..Great quaility and not to loud has a nice low tone..Best sounding slip-ons i listened to..Also prefer the dual can look..had plenty of 4-1 pipes in the past..Looks like shit on one side..
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posted March 19, 2008 03:16 PM
Hey Jeff, is that a pic of your bike?, those Yoshi's looks great & neat. Which model are they?
Thanks & Regards,
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posted March 19, 2008 05:30 PM
Edited By: drewzx-14 on 19 Mar 2008 18:32
anyone with pics of the two brothers carbon exhaust slip on.
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posted March 19, 2008 07:48 PM
if ya want 2 pipes get the slip-ons the power will still be there- full will get ya the power plus the weight savings = faster.... faster..... to each his own......
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posted March 20, 2008 04:45 AM
quote:
anyone with pics of the two brothers carbon exhaust slip on.
These are TB ones but not the carbon fiber ones.
These are carbon fiber but they are Yoshimura's TRC
These are Jardine RT5 CF
Enjoy.
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posted March 20, 2008 05:05 AM
Edited By: dubious on 20 Mar 2008 06:06
I have to say, for sound, i like the 2 bros best,
very deep big block rumble
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posted March 20, 2008 07:27 AM
Yeah my two brothers gets both Harley owners and 30' something ladies to turn there heads to see what it is. Even with the so-called silencers installed. Without the silencers it was actually a bit higher pitched and a whooooole lot louder. Too loud, ears were ringing after only 10 minutes of riding at lower revs.
But damn a uncorked ZX14 sounds badass. Like a minuature Z07 Corvette driving next to you - which happened to me yesterday and I couldnt friggin believe that it was a stock exhaust. The equivelant of 2 piped ZX 14s is what immediately came to mind. 
And Dubious is correct (again), a full exhaust will not be noticeably louder until you hit high RPMs, where there better evacuation of high pressure (sound attenuating) air and larger size allows the sound echoing in the header tubes to get out faster before it cancels itself out. "The way it should be".
I do have to dissagree on principle with those that tout the "better weight savings" line of a 4 into 1. Yeah, you do save a couple pounds. But a 4 into 2 offers lower resistance to flow with its 2 mufflers versus a single muffler (theoretically), is quieter (in general), and allows the bike to have equal weight distribution on each side. All of which doesnt really matter in the real world to the average, or even above average, rider. We are splitting hairs here fellas. Unless you are into racing or chasing the numbers game, an extra 3 or 4 pounds will not be noticed.
Lets be honest here: how many of you can tell the difference in power and accelleration when your gas tank goes from 3/4 full to 1/2 full? Thats alot more noticeable a weight drop than a much lower center of gravity placed exhaust weight drop, and would be way more likely to be noticed by the very astute among us. But most bike owners would be oblivious of that when riding on the streets, even hard riding on the streets.
Not even gonna mention adding tank bags and/or saddle bags. Now to be honest, it does matter to me, because I am a heavy SOB and need every pound weight savings I can get since I plan on road racing my 14 a bit this summer, and doing ALOT of mountain riding with friends on 600's and 1000's.
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posted March 20, 2008 09:11 AM
Edited By: busajack5 on 20 Mar 2008 10:17
Kikon,quit reading the pumped up descriptions and pick what you want. These are the least expensive.Nice mellow sound and more power lower for the street. If you drag race then you need the 4-1..I can not believe in this day and age that someone has not come up with a high power set of duals. Whats the hi tech secret of any of these mufflers, cans, they are just a Cherry Bomb with lighter and better looking materials..So since the main aftermarket exhuast manufactures are slow comming up with or matching and exceding the factorys perfect power band on the 08s for the street, they should come up with duals for the street..Lets see some muffler technolgy.What 50s 60s cars with V8s didn't have duals..Well mabey a Rambler V8.. AHA--- PS Yes my heal guards are black now..Thanks
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posted March 20, 2008 09:15 AM
Was thinking the same thing Jack. And damn, I love that white stripe on your bike! I know you painted that, but do you know if anyone has a sticker kit for something similar? I paint about as well as I ballet dance...
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posted March 20, 2008 09:34 AM
Thanks Jack, question: which model are yours?
I must admit that I like the Yoshimura's TRC look. Any of you have those or seen/hear them?
Thanks Sticks & Lyle
Thanks again & Best Regards,
David
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posted March 20, 2008 09:54 AM
S&S,,hey I had one of them paint shakers..Anyway Sticks the stripe is silver with holographic flake that no digital camera seems to want to reproduce. Mabey you could work with print shops or someone like Kinkos they might be able to scale things up and down and create a decal kit for 14s..The people that put advertisements on plumbers trucks ETC . TE -- The old brain wont let me remember what they call these shops. Might be cheaper than the kits on the net..BUTTTT its probably easer and cheaper to learn how to paint..Its a great hobby now that I don't (have) to do it unless it looks like a fun.Plus Ill take money from DavidLeeHarlyson owners any day..Yuk
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posted March 20, 2008 10:52 AM
Sorry buddy, I already took up needlepoint for my hobby of the week. Check back next Thursday! 
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posted March 20, 2008 10:58 AM
yeah, he's a big prick alright!
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posted March 20, 2008 12:55 PM
....... your time will come duby ......
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posted March 20, 2008 05:37 PM
see , rubbing works 2 ways....
are you feelin the luv yet?
do ya need a hug?.... or do you prefer reacharounds? LOL
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posted March 20, 2008 06:29 PM
quote:
see , rubbing works 2 ways....
are you feelin the luv yet?
do ya need a hug?.... or do you prefer reacharounds? LOL
OMG  ....  ?
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