wikidzx-14
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posted March 04, 2008 12:59 PM
Brocks SMEG or Muzzy M10 what's the best?
Just getting ready to order a new exhaust, want to know what everyone thinks.
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smokinzx14
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posted March 04, 2008 01:14 PM
Brocks Street Meg ....Only way to go fast !!!!!! Make sure you get his Race map ...
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billeason
Zone Head
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posted March 04, 2008 01:39 PM
I get a little more hp from the brock's on the dyno, and my 06 is faster in the 1/4 by about 1.1/2 mph. Either one will need a map to get max power. In this respect brock support is killer, there's none better. However we always get a better overall running bike with a custom tune. I have heard that muzzy is releasing a new ex for the 14 but it been a long time coming. Its what you like,other then that,me personnely i want to see what brocks short meg and muzzys m14 looks and performs like.... Bill..
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NinjaNick
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'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted March 04, 2008 02:25 PM
 Edited By: NinjaNick on 4 Mar 2008 14:28
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Brocks Street Meg ....Only way to go fast !!!!!! Make sure you get his Race map ...
I was planning to get the "TRACK" map. Is the "RACE" you speak of smokin', the TRACK map?
From brocksperformance.com :
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A "Track" map begins it's life on Brock's Dynojet Model 250 Dynamometer (located Dayton Ohio @900 ft above sea level in our climate controlled facility). Utilizing an Air/Fuel probe, we obtain the correct air fuel mixture for precise metering throughout the entire operation range to match our exhaust systems. This map is then "adjusted" (trade secret!) at the drag strip by the Brock's Performance Research and Development Department to maximize performance with the bikes own ram-air system operating at speed. The ram-air system can not be correctly pressurized on the Dyno, so real world adjustments are made and measured (to one hundredth of a mile per hour) at the drag strip.
Max power "Dyno" maps are also available Brock's Performance Exhaust System owners.
These maps are tuned to show maximum power on the Dyno....NOT maximum acceleration on the track!
Track maps WILL READ LOW power readings on the Dyno.
So what is the benefit of the "DYNO" map? Is it for street use, or is the TRACK map better for street use? Track will give more power right?
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BlackMagic14
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posted March 04, 2008 02:35 PM
I have always been please with the Brocks SMEG I have one for sell in the classifieds. I will be running the new M-14 pipe from Muzzy this season and am expecting great things from the pipe and it looks killer!! It should be available to the public by the end of this month I THINK...
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nightmare
Pro
ACP Racing
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posted March 04, 2008 02:52 PM
Street Smeg for me. But on my zx9, That Muzzy was a force to be. And it still is so I'd have to say they are tit for tat. Just look at rickey's bike! Only reason I traded my smeg for the sidewinder is because I needed to get lower but I do miss my smeg man! That new M14 is sweet looking though. Good Job ROB!
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stevewfl
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posted March 04, 2008 02:56 PM
But on my zx9, That Muzzy was a force to be
+1 I miss my muzzy equipped ZX9R from back in the day
But I sure enjoyed the Brocks exhaust on the 14!
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qwick
Expert Class
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posted March 04, 2008 02:58 PM
Brock's new Short Meg should be available by the end of next week.
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NinjaNick
Needs a job
'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted March 04, 2008 03:02 PM
Where are PICS of this M14? I hear about it, but never see it.
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BlackMagic14
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posted March 04, 2008 03:21 PM
You can check it out on the ZX14 forum on Psychobike.com the name of the thread is my daytona surprise
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NinjaNick
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'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted March 04, 2008 03:56 PM
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You can check it out on the ZX14 forum on Psychobike.com the name of the thread is my daytona surprise
http://psychobike.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=e1f7c40d086bb6fb475699142fe7ff7f;act=ST;f=43;t=58729
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87gtNOS
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posted March 05, 2008 05:56 AM
I'd like to see same bike same day dyno sheet of say the Akro full vs. the SMEG. I'd like to see the power under the curve. That is what is important for street racing. I'd then like to see each 'tuned' system run on the same bike at the track. I'd wonder what wins the ET? Power under the curve or PEAK hp?
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702fowler
Novice Class
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posted March 05, 2008 08:13 AM
i think that its a matter of opinion both are well developed systems and either system can read higher than the other on a dyno. what seperates brock from muzzys is brock. not that rob is a bad guy or anything but brock seems to to get more involved with his customers. he helped me out.
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BlackMagic14
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posted March 05, 2008 10:10 AM
I would have agreed with fowler up until about a month or so ago. I have had several communications with Rob via his assistant and they have enormously helpfull
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hardcoremass
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Powerhouse
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posted March 05, 2008 04:02 PM
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I would have agreed with fowler up until about a month or so ago. I have had several communications with Rob via his assistant and they have enormously helpfull
I second that!
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07 zx14 (black), flies removed, BMC race filter, Muzzys M10, PClll, PC ignition module, RT ext, Muzzy lowering links, 40 shot spray
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