Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 13, 2008 08:51 AM
Superchargers
Any more news on the superchargers for motorcycle applications?
Triggerman, didn't you have a thread on this a while back?
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CrotchRocket
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posted February 13, 2008 08:55 AM
I've seen a couple of bikes out there DragRacing with superchargers...They are out of control, and not enough R & D to be competitive...
Better off with a turbo with an NLR boost controller
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kawabunga
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posted February 13, 2008 09:34 AM
There are a couple of superchargers out there for the ZX14, manufactured overseas that reportedly are putting 220 RWHP and 120 ft lbs of torque. Expensive $$$...they are streetable though. Personally I don't believe there is any real advantage over a turbo other than the lag the turbo's have. The supercharger takes away HP to produce HP, the turbo takes a waste and converts it to HP. I don't want no stinkin belt driving off my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 13, 2008 10:16 AM
You're right Kawabunga, there's no beating free horsepower. But with every modification you loose one thing to gain another. So the question is what are you willing to give up for the desired mod. I would much rather give a few peak ponys in order to keep a sweet exhaust note. Besides, I'm not trying to have the fastest bike on the block. And it would have to be a clean installation concealed behind the bodywork to be appealing to me. Like you said, different strokes for different folks.
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KZScott
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posted February 13, 2008 10:57 AM
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The supercharger takes away HP to produce HP, the turbo takes a waste and converts it to HP. I don't want no stinkin belt driving off my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
a turbo isnt exactly a free flowing exhaust. it does rob a bit of hp, but it is just way less than what a blower robs
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
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BobC
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posted February 14, 2008 01:38 AM
 Edited By: BobC on 14 Feb 2008 01:44
Richard Albans at TTS has supercharged a ZX-14, also a Triumph Rocket III. The 14 is for sale in the GT Motorcycles Plymouth showroom. Haven't seen the power figures.
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sczx14socal
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posted February 14, 2008 02:15 PM
They are $3750 from TTS this includes shipping from UK
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KZScott
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posted February 14, 2008 02:20 PM
a kit or just the blower?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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KZScott
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posted February 14, 2008 02:23 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 14 Feb 2008 14:30
someone knows how to get them to work 
   
   
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 15, 2008 08:25 AM
KZ, you got that right. I saw The Spiderman in Gainesville last November for the last Prostar race. Those top fuel machines are incredible.
SCZX14SOCAL did they have a picture of the set-up? Do you have a web address? My search engine didn't find it.
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 15, 2008 08:37 AM
I finally found the site but they had no pictures of the kit on a ZX-14.
Thanks.
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BobC
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posted February 15, 2008 10:55 AM
Edited By: BobC on 15 Feb 2008 10:56
Look here:
http://www.gtmotorcycles.com/newbikes/kawasaki.php
This is a picture I took of the installed supercharger.
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Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 15, 2008 12:52 PM
Thanks BobC for the link.
I don't like the placement of the supercharger, It destroys the lines of the bike.
Calisuperbikes places them forward of the block in a much better location on the bikes they have installed them on. But I haven;t seen one on a ZX-14 and I haven't heard from anyone who owns one.
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smokinzx14
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posted February 15, 2008 02:38 PM
Edited By: smokinzx14 on 15 Feb 2008 14:41
quote:
Thanks BobC for the link.
I don't like the placement of the supercharger, It destroys the lines of the bike.
Calisuperbikes places them forward of the block in a much better location on the bikes they have installed them on. But I haven;t seen one on a ZX-14 and I haven't heard from anyone who owns one.
I called Calisuperbikes about one for a zx14 and they said it would be a waste of their time to build one ...... 
Funny part is they are making one for that Butt ugly B-King ....lol.....
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sczx14socal
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posted February 15, 2008 10:12 PM
Here are some pics, doing the install myself also adding gas
site is http://www.supercharger-experience.com/kawasaki_zx14.php
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BobC
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posted February 16, 2008 03:23 AM
Edited By: BobC on 16 Feb 2008 03:24
It's a shame that the pipe exits the housing backwards and then turns 180 degrees. I sat on the bike and I could feel it on my shin. If that housing could be rotated so the pipe exited forwards under the side cover (but I expect the clutch cover and engine case is in the way) it would be really neat.
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Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
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kountry Kawboy
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posted February 16, 2008 07:01 PM
Smokin, when I first heard about the Cali guy I e-mailed him and he said he had a photo shoot that would be in 2Wheel Tuner the next month. Needless to say I'm still waiting.
SCZX14SOCAL keep us posted on the install.
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