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posted January 27, 2008 01:12 PM
dry shot
I have never had luck with the search option on here so I'll just ask. How safe is a dryshot nitrous system on the 14? I've been lookin and there's quite a few to choose from. I want the best kit and I want it to be safe.
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posted January 27, 2008 02:00 PM
I have had no problems with mine! ran all the way up to a 50 shot! The MPS kit!
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posted January 27, 2008 02:00 PM
I have had no problems with mine! ran all the way up to a 50 shot! The MPS kit!
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posted January 27, 2008 02:10 PM
u'll have to do some reading...
I'm not typing it all again... a decision you'll have to make for yourself...
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=36623&set_time=
4 nozzles directed into each velocity stack, or don't bother IMO...
Personally, IMO.... there are no short cuts in the end
do it right or pay the price, get greedy and pay the price too...
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posted January 27, 2008 05:40 PM
Seems as if it would be just as expensive to put a really good nitrous system on my bike as it was on my civic. I have around $1000 in just parts on it and some were bought used. I installed everything myself. I think I'll have to really think about doing this or maybe just install a wet system. Thanks dubious!
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posted January 27, 2008 07:52 PM
 , wet!
u can use Chip's bar to inject wet into the velocity stacks, but best performance is as close as you can get to intake valves, through intake port.
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posted January 27, 2008 09:11 PM
It will be fine just plumbing the nozzles in the ram air tubes that will give it plenty of time to complete;y fog the airbox and it should be safe, I wouldnt go bigger then a 40 maybe 50 shot on the stock springs though!!
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posted January 28, 2008 06:55 AM
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It will be fine just plumbing the nozzles in the ram air tubes that will give it plenty of time to complete;y fog the airbox and it should be safe, I wouldnt go bigger then a 40 maybe 50 shot on the stock springs though!!
Guys have had luck spraying upstream of the airfliter, 20-30 Hp shots.
"should" being the key word.... should be ok,
Matt should warrantee your motor should you burn it up should you have issues so you should do it! LOL
there is a reason Brock would not sell a dry kit, of any design...
There is a reason Landspeed and professional drag racers, snowmobilers, etc use wet...
for accuraccy.
personally I would never run fogged nitrous again,
for sure independant feed for each cylinder, and preferably wet...
but I'm really picky, fanatical actually, and want absolutly reliable HP.
When my turbo is bolted up, the engine will be designed to handle 100 Hp more than I intend to produce, and a/f ratio's 1 to 1/2 point rich everywhere...
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posted January 28, 2008 11:58 AM
That's a kickass setup dubious! Looks like that nozzle bracket would be easy to make, but thats a dryshot setup right? I don't see any fuel lines.
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posted January 28, 2008 08:37 PM
I would suggest wet. Already did all the research. No need to reinvent the wheel. Listen to Dubious.
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posted January 28, 2008 09:46 PM
Dubious I agree your way is safer... but I know a lot of guys that just plumb it into the box without problems. Who made your setup dubious??? do you use a distribution block to split it into the four cables or what??? if you made it you should sale it to me and make you another over the winter since you wont be riding for a couple of more months... Let me know how much you will take for it? I would like to run that setup but with my back being like it is I would never be able to get into the shop and make it
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posted January 29, 2008 05:44 AM
DUBious i only see 1 flaw.... your not getting the air temp sensor fogged...so ur map better be dead on...i been spraying a 36 jet for atleast 100lbs of n2o ...plumb thru the vent pipe in back of air box ...my plugs don't even show signs of wear or lean or damage...and i'm scared of n2o also.....but it sure is great....
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posted January 29, 2008 09:27 AM
That is not my setup, but same I planned to install.
You can buy the bar from Chip hunter, then you need the distr. block, lines and jets.
It can also be set up as wet, if you use NOS wet jets.
1bad, be careful, I used muzzy header, and almost took out my motor. Yes mapped perfect, just #1 cylinder plug had 5 specs of aluminum on it. Uneven distribution, or intermitant injector problem/ plugging.
I had the injectors cleaned, and bench tested, must have been a piece of shit in it and it let go.
The other thing about dry is if you have an injector go bad, you will burn that cylinder up.
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posted January 29, 2008 11:32 AM
Ok, so wet is the way to go. How are you guys activating it? I thought about a WOT switch.
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posted January 29, 2008 03:38 PM
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That is not my setup, but same I planned to install.
You can buy the bar from Chip hunter, then you need the distr. block, lines and jets.
It can also be set up as wet, if you use NOS wet jets.
1bad, be careful, I used muzzy header, and almost took out my motor. Yes mapped perfect, just #1 cylinder plug had 5 specs of aluminum on it. Uneven distribution, or intermitant injector problem/ plugging.
I had the injectors cleaned, and bench tested, must have been a piece of shit in it and it let go.
The other thing about dry is if you have an injector go bad, you will burn that cylinder up.
wet is better ..i don't know you got more stuff to mess up...i think you play you pay sooner or later...but i do know guys that run a switch that opens injectors to wide open when n20 is triggered and been spraying for years on dry 42 jets
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posted January 29, 2008 04:00 PM
Ive ran a single nozzle fogger 40 shot for 1st yr i had my 14. Then i went 60hp wet. stock engine. still running fine. plugs look great. And 1 time my fuel pump siezed on my nitrous and unknowingly sprayed straight nos in . Still running fine. If you want a cheap set-up. get a cheap dry system off of ebay, stay at 30. you can run it all day. If you got the cash. Get a wet system. then hold on.
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posted January 29, 2008 06:44 PM
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Ive ran a single nozzle fogger 40 shot for 1st yr i had my 14. Then i went 60hp wet. stock engine. still running fine. plugs look great. And 1 time my fuel pump siezed on my nitrous and unknowingly sprayed straight nos in . Still running fine. If you want a cheap set-up. get a cheap dry system off of ebay, stay at 30. you can run it all day. If you got the cash. Get a wet system. then hold on.
+1
You can activate it through the starter button, but I do recommend a WFO throttle switch as I had a "friend" who was drunk in the shop, activate the nitrous switch and hit the start button, filling my box with nitrous.... argh..
Scnitz TPRS- 002 you can activate it based on rpm, or WFO, or both.
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posted January 30, 2008 06:49 AM
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Ive ran a single nozzle fogger 40 shot for 1st yr i had my 14. Then i went 60hp wet. stock engine. still running fine. plugs look great. And 1 time my fuel pump siezed on my nitrous and unknowingly sprayed straight nos in . Still running fine. If you want a cheap set-up. get a cheap dry system off of ebay, stay at 30. you can run it all day. If you got the cash. Get a wet system. then hold on.
+1
You can activate it through the starter button, but I do recommend a WFO throttle switch as I had a "friend" who was drunk in the shop, activate the nitrous switch and hit the start button, filling my box with nitrous.... argh..
Scnitz TPRS- 002 you can activate it based on rpm, or WFO, or both.
i have to turn my off because of a slow leaking solenoid ...after 10 minutes i get a rpm rev for a couple seconds...i cleaned it but no help ..i guess i gotta ge a new one...but damn these things don't last long
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