bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 20, 2007 01:17 AM
Has anyone tried the bolt on wheelie bar for the zx-14
I was wondering if anyone has tried the bolt on wheelie bar for zx-14's? I seen them for sale at Schnitz racing, I would amagine that it would be fun as hell launching a bike with one , but I have never used one so would I be better off buying a wheelie bar or bolt on extensions? any info would be great
  
|
jarhead
Expert Class
Posts: 418
|
posted December 20, 2007 04:30 PM
This is a good question. If you are willing to bolt on/off they would be fine. They are plenty strong for a stock motor or even a dry shot, I would not go much more than that on them though. You will have some time in getting them set up right, ideally you would make the bike rigid by removing the shock and inserting a strut, but if you are still going to ride on the street that is probably not going to be an option. Another consideration would be the clutch, when launching you are going to be putting a bunch of pressure on the clutch, I think you would be ok but I would certainly think it through. Just a rule of thumb if you go with bars, if it unloads the tire at the hit of the throttle you have them set too low, if the bike pogo's they are too high. On my KZ's I used to set a 2x4 under the wheels and use that as a starting point. Personally I think with time you could get very consistant with the bars but an arm or extesions would be more fun. I have sold all my bar bikes since getting into the street bikes.
|
mokaw
Expert Class
Posts: 153
|
posted December 20, 2007 04:35 PM
Well, I haven't been drag racing for over 20 years, but I'm going next year. In the early 80's I had a KZ1000 with a slick and bars on it. It was a blast. It launched really hard and you didn't have to worry about it going over on you or riding the clutch. Nail the throttle and go.
I just bought some Pingel wheelie bars, a M/T slick, 43T Vortex rear sprocket, an extra ZX-14 wheel to mount the slick on, some mirror block offs, and a Vortex teather switch. I'll be getting a Muzzy airshifter sometime after the 1st of the year.
I'm really looking forward to racing again after 20 some years. I'm hoping to run some good times with the 14. I actually weigh less now than I did back then, about 147 now to 155 in the 80's. Should be fun!
____________
Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord!
|
zxboy
Expert Class
Posts: 292
|
posted December 20, 2007 06:45 PM
Bryan, You would be better off just getting a set of extensions and running it in a street bike class.
The reason I say that is there is ALOT more to just bolting on the bars and going out and running the bike. Mokaw has listed some of the stuff that'll be needed but there is still more to make it all work and be consistent. On top of the slick,gearing, and air shifter some kind of clutch set up would help. A lockup would work but a slider is best. A 10"-12" extension will smooth out the launch...At stock lenth it'll be WAY too violent and pogo down the track...to lower it up front you'll need internal lowering blocks in the forks as you can't strap the front and run a rear strut at the same time.. It's not safe or legal at most tracks. So you see the list goes on and on.
I know all about this as I set up a ZX12 with bars and now it has all the good stuff and is a very consistent and fairly quick bracket bike. Roy
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 21, 2007 12:38 AM
Thanks guys for all the info, I did not realize you had to use a rear strut, it makes cense though. Could I set the bars high and still run the stock rear shock? I do alot of street riding I dont want to change the rear shock out every time I go out on the street. also I have the front strapped and I dont want to modify the front shocks in any way other than that. So I should probably get the extensions. do you guys agree?
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 21, 2007 03:04 AM
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 21, 2007 03:06 AM
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 21, 2007 03:07 AM
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 21, 2007 03:19 AM
I found pics. thought everyone would like to see. I could be wrong but I think this kit comes with a rear strut and all mounting brackets.
|
jarhead
Expert Class
Posts: 418
|
posted December 21, 2007 05:34 AM
Good luck, I think you will have fun either way you go. Again, for me the etensions would be my choice especially if you are going to continue street riding. If you are a beginnner please do not underestimate traction whichever way you go. The track is very different from the street, if go no bars take off like you do at a stop light at first and work your way up from there, looping the bike is no fun. And should you go bars I would also caution, if you leave too hard and are not ready you will be on your rear at the starting line watching your bike go down the track.
To mokaw, I am glad to see some of you guys getting back into the sport and hope to see more of it, especially when you bring our brand of choice with you.
|
stevewfl
Moderator
Posts: 27920
|
posted December 21, 2007 05:14 PM
I don't understand wheelie bars, nor straight lines
____________
2010 Concours14
'08 R1 YAMAHA
ZX14 gone!
CBR600RR track bike
|
CrotchRocket
Moderator
Bracket Racing with Betsy
Posts: 8038
|
posted December 21, 2007 05:44 PM
Whatcha talkin about Steve...In Florida it's all straight lines 
HarryZX12 said it best!!!
____________
Jason Miller StreetBike Seminars
*****DragRacers do it better, because they dont cut Corners*****
|
mokaw
Expert Class
Posts: 153
|
posted December 21, 2007 05:52 PM
The Pingel bars come with a strut. I'll be using my 2000 ZX-12R (with nitrous) to ride around in the streets. I'll leave the 14 set up for the strip. I e-mailed Ryan Schnitz and he gave me some good pointers, as far as wheelie bar wheel height, etc.
I always wondered why I kept my 12. Now I know.
____________
Every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord!
|
stevewfl
Moderator
Posts: 27920
|
posted December 21, 2007 06:00 PM
 Edited By: stevewfl on 21 Dec 2007 18:00
quote:
Whatcha talkin about Steve...In Florida it's all straight lines
HarryZX12 said it best!!!
No its not only straight lines in Florida....I do all our twisties to include Daytona International Speedway, JenningsGP, Homestead Miami International, Moroso, and a few more very choice twisties!
And also, I don't stay in FL. The day after this trip is when I sold the ZX 14 
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=35291&set_time=
____________
2010 Concours14
'08 R1 YAMAHA
ZX14 gone!
CBR600RR track bike
|
zxboy
Expert Class
Posts: 292
|
posted December 21, 2007 07:31 PM
Bryan, You HAVE to run the strut with that wheelie bar set up and it'll be included in the Pingal kit. I'd stay with the extensions....
|
bryan76
Novice Class
Posts: 85
|
posted December 22, 2007 12:58 PM
thanks for all the info, I will buy the wheelie bars I'll post pics. and time slips after i run.
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC