bayou boy
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posted October 22, 2007 01:43 PM
FLYS OUT WITH NOS
CAN U TAKE UR FLYS OUT AN STILL HAVE NOS ,TRYING TO FIND OUT IF IT WILL AFFECT THE BIKE.
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jdzx14

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posted October 22, 2007 01:47 PM
I am pretty sure thats a big yes.. will not affect anything. As far as i know the files just keep the power down in the lower rpms for rideablity and safety. Dont hold me to that though.
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billeason
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posted October 22, 2007 02:01 PM
Works better without flies w/nos. Just make damn sure you have enough fuel added. With small shot/no flies and a good map these bikes will run!! an they will stay together, in the process, Just dont get greedy with stock pistons, We have a half dozen bikes with dry 40 shots that have been running two race seasons with little more than oil changes. Bill...
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wrongway
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posted October 22, 2007 02:22 PM
quote: Works better without flies w/nos. Just make damn sure you have enough fuel added. With small shot/no flies and a good map these bikes will run!! an they will stay together, in the process, Just dont get greedy with stock pistons, We have a half dozen bikes with dry 40 shots that have been running two race seasons with little more than oil changes. Bill...
is that 40 rear wheel hp ? I ran 2 x .024 and bumped it up to 2 x .028 jets. Is that too much for a stock motor ?
Roy
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bayou boy
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posted October 22, 2007 03:47 PM
i got je pistons, 65shot
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dubious

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posted October 22, 2007 08:54 PM
I am running muzzy dry shot , 38 was the biggest jet the kit came with, mine is running a 42 now, with 20% fuel added.... on brocks map.
38=50 hp, 42 = ??? 60????
Haven't dynoed it since.... wego2 o2 meter is my friend.
At first I was running brocks track map, but noticed it was leaning out at top speed with the nitrous, and ram air at WFO speeds.
Now i run his maxton map with 20% added on the gas,
I have been running the hub, and the 2 map is activated with the solenoid button( start button) simultaneously.
No flies
No problems!
I don't hit the juice below 7000 rpm anyway. It's not good to use it at lower rpm, DETONATION and NOS kills motors QUICK, and don't wish to test the theory with my bike.
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bayou boy
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posted October 23, 2007 05:03 AM
right, that's what i have a 42 jet, i hit my spray in third gear, i wonder once i take my flies out, will i have to get it dyno again.
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Stalwart

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posted October 23, 2007 06:19 AM
At 7000 rpm the flies are open anyway so it won't change anything.
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dubious

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posted October 23, 2007 06:23 AM
flies out will run lean at cruise rpm.
If you street ride it, I would have it mapped.
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tslewisz

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posted October 23, 2007 06:49 AM
Dubious is right about the risk of detonation hitting the juice at low RPM's. That isn't the whole story, though. Thing is, when you hit the button, it's going to add a fixed amount of juice, regardless of the RPM. At a lower RPM, the cylinders will have a longer time to inhale the nitrous. That's going to increase cylinder pressure and torque dramatically. Not good on the bottom end.
On another note, I must have missed the post, dubious, where you talked about how you smoked your indicators and tail light. Fill me in?
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wrongway
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posted October 23, 2007 07:41 AM
quote: I am running muzzy dry shot , 38 was the biggest jet the kit came with, mine is running a 42 now, with 20% fuel added.... on brocks map.
38=50 hp, 42 = ??? 60????
Haven't dynoed it since.... wego2 o2 meter is my friend.
At first I was running brocks track map, but noticed it was leaning out at top speed with the nitrous, and ram air at WFO speeds.
Now i run his maxton map with 20% added on the gas,
I have been running the hub, and the 2 map is activated with the solenoid button( start button) simultaneously.
No flies
No problems!
I don't hit the juice below 7000 rpm anyway. It's not good to use it at lower rpm, DETONATION and NOS kills motors QUICK, and don't wish to test the theory with my bike.
2x .028 is equal to 1 x .040 jet , so I am pretty close to that. I have 17 in the 100% column of the PC3 and I see an AFR of 12.5.
I think I am more than 20 % since i had negative numbers in the PC3 when I was motor only.
Roy
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nightmare

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posted October 23, 2007 08:30 AM
My flies are gone and when I was running nitrous, I was running just fine! Just make sure you have the correct map installed.
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billeason
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posted October 23, 2007 04:08 PM
quote:
quote: Works better without flies w/nos. Just make damn sure you have enough fuel added. With small shot/no flies and a good map these bikes will run!! an they will stay together, in the process, Just dont get greedy with stock pistons, We have a half dozen bikes with dry 40 shots that have been running two race seasons with little more than oil changes. Bill...
is that 40 rear wheel hp ? I ran 2 x .024 and bumped it up to 2 x .028 jets. Is that too much for a stock motor ?
Roy
Sorry wrongway, i meant to say 40 hp at rear wheel, with the muzzy kit, Thats with 36 jet but spray bar position is cridical for some reason more so than other systems.If it set like intructions works very good. I would say you may be on the hot side of things on 28s but would ask smokin on here i think he has some exp, with daul set ups, bill..
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