murlyn
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posted October 10, 2007 01:54 PM
 Edited By: murlyn on 10 Oct 2007 14:55
NEW - ZX-14 1530cc Stroker Kit
ZX-14 1530cc Stroker Kit
  
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Ojref
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posted October 10, 2007 02:06 PM
Edited By: Ojref on 10 Oct 2007 15:11
penis ++ 
Note MR11, ported head, and ambient temps of 63F. I'm sure street performance would be around 230 on pump fuel. The torque is awesome! I wonder how much more would be gained with timing remapped?
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Hawkman
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posted October 10, 2007 02:40 PM
That's pretty sick. I'm bettin' 220 HP on an SAE scale with pump gas.
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cool
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posted October 10, 2007 02:54 PM
that motor would blow with pump race motor only
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ZREXER
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posted October 10, 2007 02:57 PM
Now a turbo on that motor would be really bad ass...if it would stay together!
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lietoome
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posted October 10, 2007 03:02 PM
the distance between the cylinders on that gasket...WOW.
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bishopzx12
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posted October 10, 2007 04:50 PM
finally some dyno numbers on a 1530 kit. Note the head has been done for better flow on this bike. Muzzy usually advertises ther kits as straight drop in like they did with the 1375 and i am yet to see 210 hp though plenty of torque. I wonder did they just match the ports or did they do something crazy with the head to get that hp numbers. I am been pondering this for a while but what i was thinking of doing is porting my head myself and dropping the kit in without the cams. think i will see 225-230hp on MR-9. I know the cam carry more power to the rev limiter but i know you can lose some low end grunt and that is what i really want. that kit with my muzzy airshifter/nitrous combo kit should be a force to be reckon with
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bishopzx12
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posted October 10, 2007 04:52 PM
Also am i reading this right. no crank core charge
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FasterThanStink
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posted October 10, 2007 05:44 PM
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the distance between the cylinders on that gasket...WOW.
+1 Can you say Kaboom!? Sure you can.
If you got the cash go for it. It's cool but don't come crying when it grenades.
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jw
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posted October 10, 2007 07:46 PM
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finally some dyno numbers on a 1530 kit. Note the head has been done for better flow on this bike. Muzzy usually advertises ther kits as straight drop in like they did with the 1375 and i am yet to see 210 hp though plenty of torque. I wonder did they just match the ports or did they do something crazy with the head to get that hp numbers. I am been pondering this for a while but what i was thinking of doing is porting my head myself and dropping the kit in without the cams. think i will see 225-230hp on MR-9. I know the cam carry more power to the rev limiter but i know you can lose some low end grunt and that is what i really want. that kit with my muzzy airshifter/nitrous combo kit should be a force to be reckon with
Are you saying drop in is not really drop in and go?
I'm looking into these kits and was wondering how realistic are the HP gains and if it's streetable. 13.5:1 compression doesn't sound happy on the street.
Of course, they all probably say off road use only....
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fastestbusaaround
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posted October 10, 2007 08:05 PM
Someone forgot to remove the flies on that Dyno run...look at the bizarre dips at 4-4.5k
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cool
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posted October 11, 2007 02:24 AM
its not for street only track.you need to run race gas only.for 1700 plus labor for install and head work you could spend over 7000 to get 240hp.buy turbo get 270 on pump gas and ride on street all day or track.I run 02 busa with 300 hp to rear wheel with 21000 miles now that has 190plus ft of torque.the best thing about big bore its intance power where as turbo may take a second to build boost but when it does you can still rip a big bore bike up.
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bishopzx12
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posted October 11, 2007 04:15 AM
JW notice on muzzys site they say the extra goodies added to let them attain that hp numbers. I am not saying its a bad kit but i would rather a company post modest numbers and when you actually tune your bike you get more than you expected. I have had a 1270 zx-12 and now a 1375 stroker and i have yet to see advertised number. One is becasue sae hp is a little lower than std plus maybe my run conditons were not equal to muzzys.
I am thinking if you took this kit alone (no cams,no head work) you will see maybe 215-225 becasue from my understanding cams are not a power adder but makes youe engine deliver power better and carry it to the limiter better. Now the head can give you anywhere from 10-15hp if ported right .
i am thinking of ordering this kit but i think i am going to for goe the cams and just drop it in and match the ports for better flow. Hopefully it will yield 215+
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entropy
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posted October 11, 2007 04:29 AM
Edited By: entropy on 11 Oct 2007 05:35
1.12 correction factor
26.49" Hg
must be in Bend, Or
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BobC
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posted October 11, 2007 04:39 AM
quote:
the distance between the cylinders on that gasket...WOW.
It's a stroker kit so that will be the same on the stock bike.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted October 11, 2007 04:53 AM
Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 11 Oct 2007 05:55
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the distance between the cylinders on that gasket...WOW.
It's a stroker kit so that will be the same on the stock bike.
No it's a stroker and BIG bore kit. +5mm stroke and +2mm over bore.
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ninja12
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posted October 11, 2007 05:20 AM
Edited By: ninja12 on 11 Oct 2007 06:22
I'll bet it needs rods!
How are you going to stroke the zx14 engine when you can't add a spacer?
Very thick head gasket or rods! other parts ($1000 rods) added 
This is where the uni-block sucks big time. ($1200 cams) ,
spring kit ($369) plus headwork(guessing (~$1500).
Now add the bait ($1700) back in and you can see the whole pie (~$5400 plus labor)
before it even cranks then you need $300-400 for dyno.
THIS IS A $6000+ PROJECT!!!!!
I have not heard that the2mm bore (1415) has a headgasket problem.
Just waiting until someone trys this build on a budget.
If you miss out on the free pipe and PC , better make that $7000+ from stock.
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nightmare
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posted October 11, 2007 05:26 AM
was there a price on the kit or what?
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psycho1122
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posted October 11, 2007 05:26 AM
Power is not cheap!
What expierience would have you question the Stock KHI rods?!?
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famous1
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posted October 11, 2007 06:00 AM
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I'll bet it needs rods!
How are you going to stroke the zx14 engine when you can't add a spacer?
Very thick head gasket or rods! other parts ($1000 rods) added
This is where the uni-block sucks big time. ($1200 cams) ,
spring kit ($369) plus headwork(guessing (~$1500).
Now add the bait ($1700) back in and you can see the whole pie (~$5400 plus labor)
before it even cranks then you need $300-400 for dyno.
THIS IS A $6000+ PROJECT!!!!!
I have not heard that the2mm bore (1415) has a headgasket problem.
Just waiting until someone trys this build on a budget.
If you miss out on the free pipe and PC , better make that $7000+ from stock.
building big motors on budgets...... never a good idea..... A.K.A. "pay me now or pay me later"........
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BobC
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posted October 11, 2007 07:05 AM
quote:
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the distance between the cylinders on that gasket...WOW.
It's a stroker kit so that will be the same on the stock bike.
No it's a stroker and BIG bore kit. +5mm stroke and +2mm over bore.
Oh sorry, saw the picture above and thought it was just crank and pistons.
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Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
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Brock CT Full System. etc
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ninja12
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posted October 11, 2007 07:58 AM
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Power is not cheap!
What expierience would have you question the Stock KHI rods?!?
Stock rods will be too long with a stroker crank.
A 5mm stoke will push the piston 2.5 mm farther out the hole.
They could move the pin up on the piston, but there's usually not enough
room before you impact the rings.
Everything has a budget. When it's big enough any problem can be fixed, but when you exceed it other things suffer. Most people hate unexpected expense and unfinished projects.
Strokers require much more care during assembly and are harder on rod/bearings which means more opportunity for a refresh/rebuild.
I'm not knocking the kit just want the new guys to know what they are jumping into
BEFORE they're up to the neck in the project and need more money.
If you read the site it could be mis-read if you don't know.
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dubious
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posted October 11, 2007 09:08 AM
I'm net even the least interested in boring my bike, but would sure like to stroke it, then add turbo!
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flatoutbu
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posted October 11, 2007 12:37 PM
Edited By: flatoutbu on 11 Oct 2007 13:39
The ZX-14 1530cc Stroker Kit offers the engine builder an easy way to achieve up to 240hp and 140ft-lbs. of torque. Click to view the dyno graph.
The kit includes a Muzzy 5mm welded crank, 86mm pistons, rings, pins, clips and an 86mm gasket.
P/N Description Price Order
0007-00205 06-07 ZX-14 1530cc Stroker Kit
Price does not include $695.00 refundable crank core charge. $1699.95
Additional components installed during dyno run:
0003-00028 06-07 ZX-14 Billet Camshafts $1195.00
0021-00005 06-07 ZX-14 Slotted Cam Sprockets $99.95
0025-00017 06-07 ZX-14 High Performance Valve Spring Kit $369.95
IMPORTANT: You must receive a Return Authorization number before returning your core.
Call Muzzys at 1-541-385-0706.
Returns without a proper Muzzys RMA number will be refused.
Allow at least 10 working days after Muzzys' receipt of your core for refund processing.
*Note: To be eligible for a core refund, all cores must be returned within forty-five(45) days of the invoice date.
These are the few extras you need.....another $1665 in parts. So 1665+1699=$3365....about $5.60 per hp. Might want to throw in another $250 for engine ice and another fan....so yea i'm thinking turbo.
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KaiBosh
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posted October 11, 2007 08:54 PM
Kits like this are the epitome of the phrase: If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Are turbos plug and play now for the ZX-14? From the few threads I have perused they look like a serious gambling operation still.
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