Ojref
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posted July 18, 2007 06:44 AM
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Get prepaid legal and pull over. Dont admit to ANYTHING!!!!
"Do you know why I pulled you over?"
"I'm sure you you will tell me."
No bad ass tude, No excuses, The less said the better for YOU!
Prepaid will do your talking for you when it matters in COURT!
Anything you say to the cop WILL be on the report and usually "modified for the worse
I have an attorney on retainer. (Same thing as prepaid.) Houston's home to some of the most unstable LEO's this side of LA, and the less said, the better.
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Ninja_Knight
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posted July 18, 2007 08:49 AM
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The theme here is "revenue raising" under the guise of "public safety". I won't run, nor will I admit any wrong doing, but I am always respectful and cooperative, because here, if your not, they take you in anyway, while they impound your bike. Some low budget tow company throws chains around your bike and drags it up the flatbed.
A comparable situation occurred about a month and a half ago to one of my friends in Connecticut. He said he was going 90 in a 55, and he was basically sticking with traffic that was speeding along side him. He doesn't try to lane split or tailgate because he feels that makes a dangerous hobby that much more perilous. Besides, he rides a Yamaha cruiser, not a sportsbike, so the temptation for intense speed isn't really there to begin with. The part of I-95 he was on was quite wide and he didn't even realize he was going as fast as he was until he saw the lights in his mirrors. He pulled over and the cop didn't get out of the car for a very long time. Two cruisers pulled up behind the cop and he then instructed my friend to lay on the ground with his hands behind his head. After he complied the cops got out of their cars and put handcuffs on him and told him that his speed was reckless and they were going to impound his bike. They didn't take him to jail but they did take him to a holding cell and instructed him he needed to have someone pick him up and that he would be able to get his bike out of the impound after a certain time. When he finally got his bike back after paying a ridiculous fee he saw that the idiot tow-guy scratched-up the side of his tank as well as his head light. When he complained they said that the scratches were there to begin with, and the cops refused to do anything about it.
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jnybbad
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posted July 18, 2007 08:56 AM
Priceless!!
You know I have got some useful information on this forum in the past and really appreciate the people who know what they are talking about and are willing to share info.
Then I read post's and responses like the ones in this post and I realize the uneducated, shallow juvenile people who are out there riding with me. It sickens me to read about how some of you feel that the laws and the cops who enforce them are there for everyone except you. If there were no laws and people to enforce them who would you call when you need help. You always bag on cops when you get stopped for breaking the law that you are aware of but who is the first person you call when you bike is stolen or your house is broke into?
The moral is this!! Thank you for being who you are because it gives me and thousands of other good people in public safety JOB SECURITY!!
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Old Guy
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posted July 18, 2007 12:09 PM
 Edited By: Old Guy on 18 Jul 2007 13:31
Aint bagging the police. I like them and they dont get paid enuf.
They are like everyone else . Some good, some bad. Some having bad days and some not.
I'm 50+ yrs old and have seen and got enough stuff to like law enforcement. Doesnt mean I dont fight tickets and KNOW that $$$$ isnt behind alot of stops. Hell I drove truck for a million miles (literally) and any cop would rather deal with a commercial driver than a suburbian citizen. Less hassle and twice the fines!!!
Hot bikes have made their bed and should accept that we are guilty until proven more crafty than the citing officer!!!
Oh yea..., and screw that public safety crap.
Until you get senior citizens retaking drivers tests from 65 yrs old on,
a special endorsement to drive a RV over 25'
and freaking make hand held cell phones a major freaking moving violation
dont talk to me about public safety !!!!!!!!!!you PC correct piece of dung.
But MOST cops and politicans and too PC and chickenshit to take on REAL ISSUES like that!!!!
You sound like some freaking kind of talking head from M.A.D.D., you lip servicing dittohead!! (PS I got 18 years of recovery so I can bash M.A.D.D. if I want to)
#1 cause of death on bikes in Wa. state....speed #2 ......left turning cars
I bet those numbers would change IF the accident reports were investigated more.
But its too easy to say "oh the motorcyclist was going too fast for the situation, lets do lunch now and check with our union. This seems like work. I'll need to take a leave of absence to recover from seeing that person under that winabago...,sigh"
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Ninja_Knight
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posted July 18, 2007 01:05 PM
YEAH OLD GUY! GIT-R-DUN!
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BlackMagic14
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posted July 18, 2007 01:05 PM
I for one am not bashing police officers. And of course I expect them to try and pull me over when I speed but that doesnt mean that I am going to stop... I have a lot of family members that are in Law Enforcement and I greatly respect the profession and around here we dont really have a lot of Dickhead cops most of the cops in my hometown are really cool hell literally about hlf of them ride bikes we all ride together. And one thing is for sure I would NEVER run from a cop here in my hometown for one I KNOW I AM NOT GOING TO GET A TICKET!!!! The Chief of POlice is a very close friend of my family 3 of the department sargeants are in the club I am a member of as well as 2 of the Lt.s and countless patrol officers I know probably 60 of the police officers in town so I am not worried about that, but towns like Sheridan Arkansas where they view tickets as a means of gaining revenue for the little rinkey dink city and they will literally pull you over for anyhting and right you as many tickets as they can. I mostly just avoid going through Sheridan but when I do I am always prepared to run. I got pulled over a few years ago in Sheridan for doing 42 in a 35 and I got 3 tickets Speeding, Improper Lane Change (I didnt use my blinger when I pulled over for the cop) and no seatbelt (I took it off to get to my wallet and drivers liscense) Luckily one of my better friends Brother was the chief back then so I got out of it but nowadays hell it is ridiculous over there
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hopeitsfast
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posted July 18, 2007 01:22 PM
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Aint bagging the police. I like them and they dont get paid enuf.
They are like everyone else . Some good, some bad. Some having bad days and some not.
I'm 50+ yrs old and have seen and got enough stuff to like law enforcement. Doesnt mean I dont fight tickets and KNOW that $$$$ isnt behind alot of stops. Hell I drove truck for a million miles (literally) and any cop would rather deal with a commercial driver than a suburbian citizen. Less hassle and twice the fines!!!
Hot bikes have made their bed and should accept that we are guilty until proven more crafty than the citing officer!!!
Oh yea..., and screw that public safety crap.
Until you get senior citizens retaking drivers tests from 65 yrs old on,
a special endorsement to drive a RV over 25'
and freaking make hand held cell phones a major freaking moving violation
dont talk to me about public safety !!!!!!!!!!you PC correct piece of dung.
But MOST cops and politicans and too PC and chickenshit to take on REAL ISSUES like that!!!!
You sound like some freaking kind of talking head from M.A.D.D., you lip servicing dittohead!! (PS I got 18 years of recovery so I can bash M.A.D.D. if I want to)
#1 cause of death on bikes in Wa. state....speed #2 ......left turning cars
I bet those numbers would change IF the accident reports were investigated more.
But its too easy to say "oh the motorcyclist was going too fast for the situation, lets do lunch now and check with our union. This seems like work. I'll need to take a leave of absence to recover from seeing that person under that winabago...,sigh"
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3Boysand3Bikes
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posted July 18, 2007 10:41 PM
hopeitsfast....
You are talking over the road... which means you are talking STATE PATROL... the traffic nazis... they are not prominant in and around our county except for ONE large highway. They have one car that 'frequents' our area. Counties around here, (including Milwaukee County) don't pull over commercial... you guys are a pain.. lol (All that paperwork)... All money that County Depts get goes in to the general fund budget. This is not 'ear marked' for the department. Most money that is collected by us is for ordinance tickets... DC's (the guys that didn't pass the recovery program...) Alpine Valley, (again drinking), Driving While Intoxicated, (again- drinking) etc... the traffic money is next to nothing compared to the budget. We DO NOT have any required stops or tickets... We do not issue citations for cell phones- UNLESS there is an accident that 'appears' to have been caused by "Inattentive driving".
I hope people understand that I am not saying that anything bad said against myself, or my "co-workers" means that I will disagree. I have complaints against people that I work around... but you should also realize that if it 'appears' that every officer is considered 'bad' until proven 'good'... that is not a good attitude either.... because, again, that may be part of the reason that some officers are bad??!! They then carry an attitude with the next traffic stop and then the officer thinks.... you are "bad until proven good". It really is a redundant thing. Sort of like the guy who says that he would give his wife flowers if only she cleaned the house... and the wife says that she would clean the house if only her husband would bring her flowers. It is up to all of us, (you and me) to stop the cycle, (no pun intended, though I thought it was pretty good)... I have nothing against any of you... I do however believe that you need to get the other point of view. I hope that I have at least given you something to think about. I do say that I believe that many of you have had bad times with officers.. but don't always feel that every officer is a d%ck. If they are.. most of the time they WANT you to be stupid and do and say things that get you in more trouble. Just be an adult... and if you run... then I hope you don't get caught. Even a 120mph ticket is going to be nothing like the 120mph ticket plus fleeing and eluding, failure to stop, failure to yield etc... If you think you can get away... more luck to you.... but more often, people do get caught, hurt, or someone else gets hurt. Thanks for the input... and for the ear... because I like people to understand what I am thinking... and I like to know what you are thinking. Peace.... Oh, our #1 cause of motorcycle deaths in this area...??? You got it... ALCOHOL... and most of them are the riders themselves... NOT another vehicle. Trees don't move even if it appears that way after 10 drinks... Curves don't straighten out (no matter how many drinks you have). Just be safe and have fun. Meet the officers in your area before you get pulled over... talk about the shifts.. and the accidents... and the guns...etc.. you will be surprised at how much they will like to talk.
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Old Guy
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posted July 19, 2007 09:15 AM
3boys makes a good point.
Most folks in law are regular folks with interests and lives outside the badge.
NOT power hungered ogres.
The last time I got cited I scared the hell out of the County Mounty who orginated the stop. (sorry dude, didnt see you 1 car behind me) but the Stater who was called and coming the other way WAS a big bad wolf attitude. They called off 3 other cars. They had me boxed. And this was in a rural area!!!!
Talked calmly with the county and told the Stater not to speak to me.
County was so wired he totally blew the citation(dates were 2 months in advance, tx dude) and later the report. Got my copy for discovery and he never stated how fast I was going. Just what he did to catch me. I had slowed to legal speeds when I was approaching homes and traffic areas. As soon as I knew he was there I pulled over in a safe (For BOTH of us) spot and slowly got off my bike and pulled my helmet.
He was still high on adreniline and abit thrown by my calmness and respectful attitude.
Moral of story..., save it for the track, Old Guy
I turned onto in a 6 mile chunk of good road with no homes or cross streets and took off, He was behind a car headed in the same direction.
I was still the wrong place for high speed
I got lucky, didnt hit a deer, did allow the county to catch up(inadvertintly) and that was better than meeting the Stater 1st or having all cars converge on me. They would have HAD TO do something bigger with more agencies involved.
Save it for the tracks Kids.....,TC
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Tool man
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posted July 19, 2007 09:41 AM
Yearts ago.. after a road race weekend, I would notice that as I drove to work on my 1325 Big bore Suzi gs1100. I would have no aggression in my driving at all, no wheelies, burnouts or anything remotely anti~social.... A rare thing for me those days.
I was spent, wiped out of the need for speed. It would only last for a day or so, but it was a noticeable difference.
So take it to the track is a good peice of advice. If you think you can not afford it, what do you think are the fines nowadays for fleeing and impound and court and a lawer and Ect. ??
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steve weedy
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posted July 19, 2007 07:48 PM
Edited By: steve weedy on 19 Jul 2007 23:13
alrite its good to stop for 5 o....happy now.
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WRAITH_ZX_14
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posted July 19, 2007 08:22 PM
weedy...death would be the easy way out going down at those speeds on the streets. Like jdxzx14 sadi...It's just time and money.
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3Boysand3Bikes
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posted July 19, 2007 08:59 PM
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Ive been smokin em since i was a kid on my 1983 cr500 to my 2000 zx12 and i will continue to do so,..i actually will intentualy blow bye them on a 130 mph wheelie just so theyll come play with me.........F**k the police..
Hey steve... nice first post.... and what brings you to the zx14 forum... just shooting the bull?? Welcome... this is the place for opinions... and loads of intelligent information... seems as though you have delivered one of the above?!
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tankueray7
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posted July 19, 2007 09:11 PM
Edited By: tankueray7 on 19 Jul 2007 22:15
I hardly ever post a reply, but this convo kinda eats at me the wrong way. I'm a federal officer not a local but being on the other side of this fence I've had the opportunity to see things from a different angle. The sad part is that its always the a...holes like some of you that get these stupid laws enacted and then are the first to complain about them. Its amazing how much bulls...t people can throw out to try to justify their wrong doings. The question is not whether or not the police officer should chase but why is it necessary to run 100mph through a 35 mph school zone, and oh yeah it happens. Ask them why and its "I didn't know this was a school zone." You know my solution break his f..cking jaw and maybe the next time he'll pay attention or maybe not, but he has another jaw. I don't mean to be angry but I'm a father and husband and I don't want to hear I'm sorry because some idiot didn't want to pay a speeding ticket. And for the cops that chase you, they know dam well they can't catch a superbike. They in my opinion are an even bigger threat. By the way, I am a rider of a 2006 ZX-14. I had a 2007 but some dumb b...tch was on the cell phone and pulled out in front of me. But only doing 35 saw that b...tch talking of the phone and knew what was coming. Before you ask why I didn't do something else, 4 full lanes of traffic both behind and in front of me with the ditch from hell on the side. I've had problems with police as all of you probably have, Mississippi, redneck capital of the world, but we all know the game we play when it comes to the police. Its like feeding a bear and then getting mad when he bites your ass. Instead pull you pants down so that they don't get ruined.
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BIGZXDADDY
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posted July 21, 2007 11:20 AM
did i read this wrong or did a federal officer just state that his solution for a speeder with a smart mouth was to break his jaw?wtf!? attitudes and actions like that are why alot of people don't trust and fear law enforcement. here in va. every state tropper i've come across has been on the staight and narrow and very professional. however a vast majority of the local boys cause more crime than they prevent and are exactly what they are referred to as: "fucking pigs" i pull over when the lights come on(not always the case when i was younger) but just because you have a badge doesn't mean you deserve the respect that comes with it. don't talk a bunch of shit if you don't walk the line and do your job like you were trained to do it. to all those who do, you have my respect and grattitude
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tankueray7
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posted July 21, 2007 07:50 PM
Edited By: tankueray7 on 21 Jul 2007 20:57
If you gonna quote me, get it right. "The question is not whether or not the police officer should chase but why is it necessary to run 100mph through a 35 mph school zone, and oh yeah it happens. Ask them why and its "I didn't know this was a school zone." You know my solution break his f..cking jaw and maybe the next time he'll pay attention or maybe not, but he has another jaw." You're probably the same type of guy that prays for the drunk driver that just killed a car load of kids too, aren't you, LOL. I on the other hand just say give his ass the same thang he gave the kids, and hopefully very painfully. Respect is not what it use to be, fear is much better. And for the record I attempt to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated and I assume that they are going to do likewise. So if he starts acting like an ass, I must assume that he wants me to act like an ass also, LOL. And I think the only thing wrong with torture is letting these bleading heart Americans find out. You all are the reason the country is in such poor shape today.
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3boysand3bikes
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posted July 22, 2007 12:11 AM
Well Tankueray... you seem to be a bit 'old school'... We are getting away from beating people up for breaking the law. Yes, it is hard to deal with people... especially when drunk... but then again, as law enforcement, we are held to higher standards than the offender. I have to go home and look in a mirror at the end of the night... and if I 'break someone's jaw', (even if I feel they diserve it), I am not any better than them. Yes it is hard to control yourself... especially when you know that they will get a hand slap when they go to court... but we/you are not the judge. Maybe the person made a very stupid mistake compared to the habitual offender. Why are some of these people angry with law enforcement? Do you think it is because they got a speeding ticket??!! No, they have heard, seen or have dealt with an officer that is 'above the law'. I was also a Paramedic and have treated drunk drivers that had just killed another driver. It is not easy, it is not fun... but it is the right thing to do. We take an oath... and I believe in it. There are a lot of reasons that our Country is in poor shape.. but taking advantage of a badge is not going to help at all. We have a very hard job. (I don't know what you do) but a badge is a badge. I am sure that you do a great job... but we all have to be part of the solution... not part of the problem. Now, that being said, if I do a traffic stop and someone shoots at me, I will use my training and shoot to stop... and if he is killed or injured, so be it... but I will not render him defensless and then shoot him in the leg, (or arm etc..) to try to make up for our questionable court system. If they are acting, "like an ass"... I disagree with you that you should act, "like an ass". You should do your job. Most people are in a bad mood when they are pulled over. It is a natural thing to do. The next day we are both different people. There are many poeple that I have dealt with that will now give me information or actually treat me with more respect after our encounter. Lastly, fear is not better. Fear is a dog stuck in a corner... and he will act out. That same dog if treated wisely will lay down on his back and submit. Officers that back people into the corner (per say) will make that person act out on other Officers. Listen to these people on this Forum. Fear makes them angry. Respect has to be 'earned' by everyone in this World. A badge does not get respect anymore, so we must earn it. 'Busting a jaw', in my opinion is not earning respect... I realize that there are many opinions on all of this. I am just giving mine. I am not going to judge or feel that I am better than anyone... I will continue to do the best that I can... and at the end of the day, when I look at the mirror, or my family, I know that I can say that I have followed my procedures and protocols. Rodney King was wrong... and he was a big boy... but when he was lying on the ground with 6 Officers around him, he was not going anywhere... there was a lot of respect lost that day... and the fear has only caused others to act out. Fear is for bullies and thugs. Control and honesty creates respect. Peace...
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posted July 22, 2007 04:14 AM
3b&3bikes +100(well said). tangeray I think you are an IDIOT!Organizations are sued when actions are taken from your type of thinking.Im sure you might have a mistake or 2 in your life that you wanted/need(regardless of how "small" you thought it was).I think you would feel differently if people cracked your jaw over bullsh*t(yo wife might be first in line with brass knuckles)!My point-use your head and watch your conduct.
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posted July 22, 2007 05:48 AM
I have been reading these posts and getting more upset with every post .. I'm not really mad about the posts but the post bring back bad memorys for me ..More than once i have been beatin up by police ..One that comes to mind , i was pulled over in a parking lot for loud mufflers in my 1968 GTX ...I was not pulled over for anything but the sound of my pipes ...I was tossed in the back of the police car and asked if i had any cash on me ..I said NO and the two cops beat the shit out of me and took me to jail ....One other time i was walking along and a cop cuts me off with his car ..He gets out and strip searchs me and find nothing but a pack of smokes...He knocks me to the ground and leaves me in pain on the side of the road ....There is more but you get the idea...
I have two friends that are in law inforcement and the storys they tell me would shake you to the core !!! I know most of you have seen Dateline NBC to "To Catch a Predator" Well Boys and girls the cops tell me first hand that more than a few cops have been busted on this show but you will not see that on TV !!! That's right no Jail for the cops , no TV time for them ...Fact is they got nothing but a slap on the wrist .... Guys these are the people that are policing you and me !!!! I'm sick about this hole damn thing and fully understand if someone runs when the lights come on ... I'm not saying to run but i for one would think about it , i may not act on it but would be giving it a thought ...Fact is Cops lie, ADA lies and the Judge buys it hook line and sinker ...Damn if you do and damned if you don't ...Do i sound bitter ??? hell yes i'm , i wish i wasn't but if you were in my shoes i think you would be too...
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smokinzx14
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posted July 22, 2007 06:09 AM
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If you gonna quote me, get it right. "The question is not whether or not the police officer should chase but why is it necessary to run 100mph through a 35 mph school zone, and oh yeah it happens. Ask them why and its "I didn't know this was a school zone." You know my solution break his f..cking jaw and maybe the next time he'll pay attention or maybe not, but he has another jaw." You're probably the same type of guy that prays for the drunk driver that just killed a car load of kids too, aren't you, LOL. I on the other hand just say give his ass the same thang he gave the kids, and hopefully very painfully. Respect is not what it use to be, fear is much better. And for the record I attempt to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated and I assume that they are going to do likewise. So if he starts acting like an ass, I must assume that he wants me to act like an ass also, LOL. And I think the only thing wrong with torture is letting these bleading heart Americans find out. You all are the reason the country is in such poor shape today.
After reading your post i know why i was pulled over in Missisippi twice while driving down I-10 ... I was pulled over with no cause other than i was profiled as a drug mule and having a FL tag on my car ... After sitting on the side off the road for hours they found no Drugs and i was let go ...No sorry , No have a nice day ...Last word was i will get you next time ass wipe ....All i was doing is driving from FL to TX to see my Grand kids ...Reading your post i think you must be that ass wipe that pulled me over or one of his good buddies .... 
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Tool man
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posted July 22, 2007 06:24 AM
Power corrupts, cops are human.. Too bad many forget it 
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hopeitsfast
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posted July 22, 2007 06:36 AM
3boys, i really hope in general that you are the rule and not the exception. I live in a smll city and the majority of these cops are decent but we do have a couple " break your jaw" types. You sound half way logical. Keep treating people with respect and i would figure you will get plenty of it in return.
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bigdtd
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posted July 22, 2007 11:11 AM
thanks for being you 3b
i got pulled over in pinellas park going with traffic and trying to get home before the storm hit, he said(exaggerated) 70 in 45(lowered 10mph for some cones up) and ticketed and delayed me long enough to get soaked. would think twice next time bout stoppin.
not all are so cool.
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posted July 22, 2007 03:28 PM
smoked another 5/0 last nite on my green rocket this time he was on a hog...hah!
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