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posted June 21, 2007 04:21 PM
Question about adding Swingarm Extensions
I just ordered a set of extensions from Roaring Toyz and a 150 link chain. What is the quickest way to remove old chain? Should a guy use old chain and attach link to new chain and rotate over sprocket, the reason I am asking is that there looks to be a mess of shit on the sprocket cover (gear indicator and resevoir). Appreciate any other usefull info.
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posted June 21, 2007 05:12 PM
You have to break the old chain to get it off. Maybe if you want to reuse the old chain, you wouldn't have to remove the cover. Just cut a piece from the new one you ordered and splice it to the old one. Would take two master links. I don't like the clip master links, so use the pressed on ones, but it takes a chain tool. It's much easier to break the old chain with the tool also.
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posted June 21, 2007 05:13 PM
Sorry about all the confusion, what I was wondering is the easiest way to replace with new longer chain. Is it quicker to attach link to new chain from old chain and rotate over sprocket or to remove sprocket cover? Again, are there any things to observe when removing cover.
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posted June 21, 2007 05:19 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, I was editing my post when you replied. I am used to working on the old choppers, and have never had to use a chain breaker. May have to order one, dont want to damage the paint using the old grinder.....
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posted June 21, 2007 05:39 PM
Just ordered the chain breaker and master link pin installer. Thanks again for the advice. I am still curious about the routing of the chain. Is it possible to attach to old chain and rotate over sprocket, or what is the process of removing the cover. If the cover can be removed painlessly, then this is the way I will go. Thanks again..
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posted June 21, 2007 07:44 PM
 Edited By: buddy on 21 Jun 2007 20:49
I always use a grinder to grind down the ends of the link pins so it's easier to push them out. So far, I haven't done any damage with it.
The cover is not that hard to remove, though, just don't operate the clutch with the cover off and put it back on opposite the way it came off.
(edit) I see you already suggested attaching the old chain to the new. Guess I should read more careful.
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posted June 22, 2007 07:47 AM
No need to remove cover. When adding a new chain, take a tie strap and strap old to the new and pull it through in neutral. Breaking the chain- grind the 2 pins, have laying on ground and smack a chisle between the 2 plates pops off and will slide apart. No need to pop the pins through. I just got done with my bike with all the bolt ons including the R-Toyz extentions. I put a ZVX chain on because of the strength.
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posted June 22, 2007 08:54 AM
yea you can just stick the master link on the old/new chain and run it thru. I have done it without pulling the cover but it's a pain. Depending on gearing you should need around 142-145 link chain for the RT ext and how far you want to go back. good luck
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Pat Dietrich
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posted June 22, 2007 09:22 AM
Its a pain?????? Not sure how, my went through as easy as if it were one chain. I connect them on the rear sprocket so its exactly the same as being one piece. Easy as pie. No pain at all.
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flatoutbu
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posted June 22, 2007 11:18 AM
No i meant if you try to rethread the chain thru after you took the old one out..without pulling the cover.
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posted June 22, 2007 02:06 PM
Thanks for the advice fellas. I am planning on running it out 7", about how many links are used with factory gearing. I ordered a 150 link chain, hopefully this will work out fine. Cant beat the look of the ext swingarms....
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posted June 22, 2007 07:06 PM
what gearing are you going with? i was 1 down 3 up and 147 links was perfect for 7" over---(which is all the RT will do)
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posted June 23, 2007 07:19 AM
I was planning on just running stock gearing for now. After installing brocks pipe, pc///, and spray I will look at gearing.
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flatoutbu
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posted June 23, 2007 08:02 AM
stock gear should be about right for spray...you still might want to go one down in the front....145 links should do ya. Good luck and lets see some time slips.
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posted June 24, 2007 11:51 AM
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No i meant if you try to rethread the chain thru after you took the old one out..without pulling the cover.
Oh, that would be a pain in the ass.lol
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posted June 24, 2007 01:06 PM
FBA how much do you weigh I am 285 and I am going with 16/44 that should be good huh???
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flatoutbu
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posted June 25, 2007 11:07 AM
I have the same gear 16/44...im 235 suited. You probaly could go 16/45 with no problems....puts you at a 2.81 gear ratio. It all depends on how you like to set your bike up. If the track you run at hooks good go more gear...if you have a shitty track run less. I'm at the top of 5th right at the end, but i also have a airshifter.
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posted June 26, 2007 02:17 PM
Installed extensions today, everything went good. Used stock brake line, re-routed, had to grind 1/16" off of ears on caliper to allow for stock line. Looks great, we will see how it handles, went 7" back.
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