dutchzx14
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posted May 13, 2007 10:01 AM
ignition upgrade
is there a hp gain posible over the whole rpm range by upgrading the ignition??
still waiting for the ignition module to come out from dynojet but my kawa dealer told me that there is almost no power gain with this module... hard to believe for me... anyone have some experience with those moduls???????
   
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LandspeedLarry
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posted May 13, 2007 01:06 PM
All late model sportbikes have very good stock ignitions. Any power gain would come from mapping with a powercommander and timing changes with the ignition module. For instance the drags with a pipe would require a richer mixture for launch and more timing. Top speed would require less timing in top gear and the mixture should be measured with an onboard A/F gauge. Current bikes are so good it takes alot of little things to add up or major internal changes like more displacement and compression. Have fun.
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bigdtd
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posted May 13, 2007 05:00 PM
biggest gain would be from some race gas and timing adjustment to complement the setup
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ZXLNT
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posted May 13, 2007 10:17 PM
Also the advatange, even if not outright HP gain would be to back off the timing for nitrous, which of course gives a HP gain..
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F_Sik
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posted May 15, 2007 07:44 AM
i will save my mony
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Charlie da Tuna
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posted May 15, 2007 07:11 PM
quote:
is there a hp gain posible over the whole rpm range by upgrading the ignition??
still waiting for the ignition module to come out from dynojet but my kawa dealer told me that there is almost no power gain with this module... hard to believe for me... anyone have some experience with those modules???????
The dj module says +/- 10, but I guess it's really only about +/-2 degrees change on the couple that I've used and tuned.
I'm not exactly sure about the actual "2" degrees, but the hp spread was only about 2% hp change from +10 to -10.
If it was -10 DEGREES to +10 DEGREES, you should have seen bogging to pinging....... and not just a teen hp change.
The only use for the dj ignition module is if you need one to run the Quickshifter.
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ZXLNT
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posted May 15, 2007 07:50 PM
The ignition module isn't required to run the quickshifter. The quickshifter will plug directly into the expansion port on the power commander.
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Ojref
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posted May 16, 2007 09:11 PM
 Edited By: Ojref on 16 May 2007 22:11
A few degrees of timing and 93 octane pump gas should be an easy gain of 5 hp in the bottom and midrange. I don't think it's worth the price of admission, considering how much the jerkoffs at Dynojet want for a box that should have been built into the standard ECU tuner, IMO.
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ZXLNT
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posted May 16, 2007 09:42 PM
I agree it should have been built into the Powe Commander itself.. Perhaps a modest fee for upgrade, but yea I agree with ya..
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dutchzx14
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posted May 16, 2007 11:23 PM
I agee with the fact that it would gain in lower and mid range, with the pomp gas here at octane 98, I could use the advancer I guess..
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bigdtd
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posted May 17, 2007 03:51 PM
they sell a nice timing advance piece on schnitz racing site
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