stephane
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posted May 05, 2007 06:11 PM
Do I need a TRE if I have a pc?
Well I pulled the flys & installed a pcIII, do I also need a TRE? I have a Muzzy full system with
Muzzy's map.
  
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dbeadling
Zone Head
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posted May 05, 2007 07:35 PM
tre only opens the flies early...if you pulled them its a waste of money.read the forum for information. its the best place on the net to learn about the zx 1400 and how to make the fastest...faster.
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rudebwoy
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posted May 06, 2007 01:37 AM
If you've already pulled the 'flies, then a TRE is wholly unnecessary redundancy; the TRE as 'dbeading' stated simply opens the flies early, and since there are no 'flies for it to open it simply serves no function whatsoever; all you should need is the appropriate zx-14 map for your Muzzy full system without 'flies.
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fury
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posted May 06, 2007 03:07 AM
TRE...
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Well I pulled the flys & installed a pcIII, do I also need a TRE? I have a Muzzy full system with
Muzzy's map.
The first time I mentioned the TRE. Well DUCK!
These guys have done alot in the way of performance gains.
Letr dangle!
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bigdtd
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Interceptors
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posted May 06, 2007 04:27 AM
the tre makes the secondary butterflies open earlier(like the ecu would in sixth gear).
if you remove the secondary butterflies then you have no need for the tre.
the whole point is greatly increased low end performance. make sure you get a flies out map to insure your motor gets enough fuel with the extra air at these lower rpms.
a great reference to read would be brocks diaries.
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sczx14socal
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posted May 09, 2007 01:43 PM
Then why do they see a TRE for bikes with flies out check Ivans website has two TRE one for bikes with flies one for bike without flies?
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Stalwart
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posted May 09, 2007 03:00 PM
Because Ivan wants you to buy a TRE, even if you don't need one. He makes good money on that little resistor.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 09, 2007 08:32 PM
The TRE6A just gets rid of the popping on decel by putting the engine in the "neutral" map...which you can do by just grounding the neutral wire instead...
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bigdtd
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posted May 10, 2007 06:30 AM
"Then why do they see a TRE for bikes with flies out check Ivans website has two TRE one for bikes with flies one for bike without flies? "
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dac
Novice Class
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posted May 10, 2007 01:57 PM
Hey Fastest.... interesting comment... for those not in the know (me)...would you care to elaborate on what you meant by grounding the neutral wire
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stevewfl
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posted May 10, 2007 06:35 PM
quote:
"Then why do they see a TRE for bikes with flies out check Ivans website has two TRE one for bikes with flies one for bike without flies? "
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
some folks just don't get it huh 
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