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posted March 04, 2007 10:10 AM
well bently, since you've never met me I find it hard to believe you "know me"... I dont remember meeting you in person, and no I dont have a "muzzy bias"... I'd really appreciate it if you didnt put words in my mouth or speak for me... I dont need that. The site existed for 6 years before you became a member... that's a long time.
Again, I dont know how to phrase this any differently... I'm not biased towards any pipe.. I really dont care.. whoever makes the better product for the specific model is the best IMHO... and that's so subjective there really is no clear answer... it comes down to personal preference...
What about Hindle? Put 2 and 2 together. Think about it.
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posted March 04, 2007 10:12 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 4 Mar 2007 10:14
SPAMMER .
The oreint express/ ti force pipe, and Brocks pipes apper to have the best dyno, 1/4 mile and top speed results thus far.
You wouldn't go wrong buying either of those pipes.
For the price, muzzy's is a good deal too. Considerably cheaper.
They are all within a couple HP of on another, and likely you would never notice much difference.
That said its all preferance.
And they all are sponsors....
I just fail to understand why they don't get equal props from the owner of the site...
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posted March 04, 2007 10:19 AM
I think he means Hindle makes Brocks pipe.
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fish_antlers
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posted March 04, 2007 10:22 AM
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That said its all preferance.
And they all are sponsors....
I just fail to understand why they don't get equal props from the owner of the site...
??? whaddya mean dubious? Do you have a readin' problem?
READ WHAT I SAID:
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Again, I dont know how to phrase this any differently... I'm not biased towards any pipe.. I really dont care.. whoever makes the better product for the specific model is the best IMHO... and that's so subjective there really is no clear answer... it comes down to personal preference...
It's the exact same thing that you said after.
Apparently they are all getting equal props on the site, and you have a comprehension "issue"
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posted March 04, 2007 10:36 AM
sorry.
Mostly what I read was Muzzy, Muzzy Muzzy Muzzy and hardly any mention of the others.
By that time I stopped reading much of what you posted.
 LOL
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posted March 04, 2007 10:38 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 4 Mar 2007 10:39
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sorry.
Mostly what I read was Muzzy, Muzzy Muzzy Muzzy and hardly any mention of the others.
By that time I stopped reading much of what you posted.
LOL
ya, .. well you have to READ
yer BUSTED! 
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posted March 04, 2007 12:33 PM
orient express
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posted March 04, 2007 12:35 PM
TiForce is who I went with. Did a full system hi mount . Love it. It's a single can. With the pc3 they were "claiming" 18-23 horse gain. Just put the pc3 on and have yet to get a dyno to check the results.
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posted March 04, 2007 02:10 PM
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quote:
sorry.
Mostly what I read was Muzzy, Muzzy Muzzy Muzzy and hardly any mention of the others.
By that time I stopped reading much of what you posted.
LOL
ya, .. well you have to READ
yer BUSTED!
Wow.... Fish you get MEAN when your hitt'in the pipe :P
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posted March 04, 2007 02:12 PM
I never put words in your mouth fish, How can you sayyour fair, ever time someone has commented about a pipe you have been muzzy muzzy muzzy, we can all read. Well most of us can. I just said you were a stand up guy for how you run this site don't have to meet you to see that. And if you want to talk about meeting people maybe you should save your 3rd grade name calling(chump) to you do meet them.
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posted March 04, 2007 04:08 PM
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Your black 12 was nicer than a 14, IMO.
jeff
another ZX14 basher lmao 
maybe the 'busa and ZX12 crowd could quit fighting with each other and consolidate their efforts towards ZX14 bashing since the 14 humbles them both 
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posted March 04, 2007 04:52 PM
Back to the question at hand!!!.....Who is the ZX14 exhaust guru???
I to am waiting for the Akrapovic, since I have one on my 12!!!.....If I had to choose a pipe now it would be the Brock's StreetMeg pipe!!!
Fish is correct in his comments on who the pipe guru's are here!!!
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posted March 04, 2007 05:05 PM
...whatabout that kid in Montana who hacked a cherrybomb on his 12R....what was his name?....isn't he a guru, too?....somebody please post a pic of that....classic bikeland.org stuff ....
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posted March 04, 2007 05:10 PM
That's nothing I saw a new chevy truck yesterday with what had to be at least a 12 inch round stack sticking straight up in the middle of the box about 3 ft higher then the roof of the cab. I don't get what some people think is cool.
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posted March 04, 2007 05:13 PM
How can I forget about Cody's custom crack pipe
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posted March 04, 2007 05:34 PM
Edited By: worm~hole on 4 Mar 2007 17:35
...THERE YA' GO!!!! ...that' qualifies as instant guru status right there, no gray hairs needed...it doesn't get better than this, yo'!
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posted March 04, 2007 06:53 PM
Heh heh.................... I remember when he did that................what...........5 years ago?
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posted March 04, 2007 08:22 PM
too funny~
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posted March 04, 2007 09:20 PM
It all depends on what you are looking for If you want ALL OUT PERFORMANCE the Muzzy m-10 or the Brocks SMEG or the Tiforce if price is your main concern MUZZY BY FAR the oval can not the m-10 if you are looking for what looks the best I think the Yoshi is the best looking (but I have heard some dissapointing stuff about the dyno runs with the Yosh) as far as just an all around good pipe they are all good, If you are concerned with status and money is not an issue and you want an extremely GOOD QUALITY MADE pipe with close to the same power as all the above (except the SMEG and the M-10 wait for the Akro (2100 for a full system AHHHHHHH) as far as the SMEG versus the other oval cans I dont think that is a fair comparison in the strictly performance category cause I think we CAN ALL agree a megaphone style exhaust is ALWAYS going to make more power!!!
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posted March 04, 2007 09:25 PM
Knowing all that Brock did in bringing to production his ZX-14 exhausts and the maps that go with them...Brock is the ZX-14 exhaust guru in my book without any question.
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posted March 04, 2007 09:25 PM
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Knowing all that Brock did in bringing to production his ZX-14 exhausts and the maps that go with them...Brock is the ZX-14 exhaust guru in my book without any question.
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posted March 04, 2007 09:27 PM
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Knowing all that Brock did in bringing to production his ZX-14 exhausts and the maps that go with them...Brock is the ZX-14 exhaust guru in my book without any question.
I'm enjoying my Brock's exhaust too
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posted March 04, 2007 09:31 PM
too bad the exhaust manufacturers aren't publicly traded companies (significant ones for the 14 anyway), I'd be interested seeing sales/revenues.
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posted March 04, 2007 09:36 PM
Since the subject did come up Fish. Come someone answer this for me. Is Brock selling something that Hindle already produced? , Or is the difference being Brocks suggested specs as far as header and midpipe diameter and bends in the systems? Has anyone compared the two Brocks Hindle vs Hindles Hindle?
Muzzy is a guru, Remeber now R.schnitz sent a ZX14 flying down the 1/4 with a Muzzy pipe.
Brock is good, He definately has a huge following with these ZX14's
I would like an Akrapovic as well.
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posted March 04, 2007 10:45 PM
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sorry.
Mostly what I read was Muzzy, Muzzy Muzzy Muzzy and hardly any mention of the others.
By that time I stopped reading much of what you posted.
LOL
ya, .. well you have to READ
yer BUSTED!
I make a habit of ignoring spammers, so please excuse my lack of reading effort.
its like selective hearing....
Any of the pies I mentioned are made by industry guru's as far as the zx14 is concerned.
Muzzy has kawi support, Brock has devoted an entire year of his life to development of the 14, and orient express / ti force (same pipe) have been very strong competitors in the pipe wars, as the ti force pipe has been a top rival on many models the last couple years.
i have not heard anything great about the yosh systems on the 14.
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