ImaSlowZX
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posted February 08, 2007 01:31 AM
That looks really awesome...cheers to you. You might want to reproduce them and I'll surely purchase one from you. Would you have any approx of its loudness in dB? It might set off car alarms ...even with those cars parked in the open!!
  
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 08, 2007 04:38 AM
QWICK, thanks for trying.
Rock on!
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icdumpeple
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posted February 08, 2007 05:53 AM
Can do. I have answered your private massage.
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QWICK
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posted February 08, 2007 10:55 AM
Kawboy, get me another e-mail address and I'll try sending them to you again
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QWICK
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posted February 15, 2007 08:38 PM
Sorry guys... Still working on a sound file & video of the pipes for you. Been busy with work and trying to buy a good used 4-wheel drive. I know, I know, get my priorities in order. Well, I got the 4x4 issue resolved and out of the way so let me see what I can come up with.
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 16, 2007 04:32 AM
Try this: Michael.Lowery.ctr@macdill.af.mil
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted February 16, 2007 04:33 AM
Try this: Michael.Lowery.ctr@macdill.af.mil
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QWICK
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posted February 16, 2007 10:30 AM
Kawboy, I'll try it when I get back in later tonight.
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QWICK
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posted February 17, 2007 12:43 PM
Kawboy, I tried it again but it still failed.
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icdumpeple
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posted February 28, 2007 10:37 PM
My report for what its worth.
I had the chance to ride with Quick today for a couple of hours and this is what I saw and heard.
Waiting at the fuel stop by the interstate I had the chance to see a couple of bikes ride by on the four lane through town. Most all had some sort of aftermarket pipe and though they were some distance from me I could make out the makes and and models. After a while I noticed the unmistakeable sound of a bike coming that left me with the feeling of a need to see what the hell kind of bike is this. Not loud and obnoxious but a deep throaty here comes something new sound. It took a little time before he came into view due to the buildings between us but before I could see him I knew it must be Quick. I had never heard a bike that could sound so pleasing from that distance. He pulled in and rode in a circle to park next to mine. I was sitting on my helmet some 20 yards from my bike to give me a better view of it. Something nice to admire while I wait. I noticed head on his bike gave more sound than most pipes but not much. All of the sound came from both sides with alittle more from the back than was from the front. I noticed right off his 14 was lower than mine. Turns out more than 2 inches in the rear. His was lowered and mine had more rear perload than stock. After taking a few on ramps to the interstate his peg was just as close as his pipe to the pavement. With my 14 being set as high as it is I do not think clearance will be a problem at all, besides I would rather scrach a few $20 tips than one side of the fairing. Make up for lost ground under braking. Back it in if need be. Fit and finish look better in person than it does in the pics. and this is not a tipical saw off and strap on a tip job. The thought and effort involved shows in the sound it gives back. With Quick running a PCIII and stock map and my 14 totally stock I wanted to see what difference it would make on power. A few roll ons told part of the story. Both bikes still had flies so anything under 6500 on the tack and both where even but once over that and his bike started to pull mine a little. His did pop once under deceleration. Which gave the indication of need for a custom map, however with the right R&D the baffles could be dialed in. I took a little time to check for a heat issue an found none. No discoloration or melted plastic. Hell my stock pipes get hotter.
Conclusion,
I do plan to try to copy his efforts but with an oval shape possibly set at a 45 degree or so. I am a superbike nut and like the open clean look of this set up. How else can you spend so little and gain so much. Brock is out to help out and make some money along the way with biggest hp in mind and Muzzy is out for well money. He has the name. This type of pipes may not give either to a company building pipes. Would you spend say $150 or $200 for less weight than a set of $600 slip ons? I would just to have the sound. BAD ASS. So when you see Qwick shake his hand or just salute him for being able to do what most of the riders that down his Qwick Pips don't have the ability to do.
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Kountry Kawboy
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posted March 01, 2007 08:22 AM
IC, nice read. And good luck on your own set up. Don't forget to keep us posted.
QWICK, I'm at attention saluting your efforts. They say "Nessecity is the mother of invention." I say yeah, most of the time, but don't forget the desire to be different and a plain ol' excersise of one's own enginuity as a motivating factor as we see here. Again, thanks for sharing.
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QWICK
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posted March 01, 2007 08:39 AM
IC, I enjoyed meeting you and had a great ride. Thanks for the positive input and kind words. Keep me posted on the mods to your pipes and give me a call if I can help in any way.
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QWICK
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posted March 01, 2007 08:41 AM
Thanks Kawboy
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zerMATT
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posted March 01, 2007 06:24 PM
Judging by the c-strips, I don't think Qwick will have to worry about scraping the pipes.
I like the look - very clean and compact. 
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QWICK
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posted March 01, 2007 07:00 PM
Well judging by the mileage of only 700 and no roads in the near area to ride very hard on, I'll have to agree with ya zerMATT! I see WAY TOO MANY accidents due to debris in the roadway ( Oil, sand, gravel etc.) to take a chance on it. As I've said before, a closed course would make for a truly enjoyable experience. And while riding the Dragon this past fall on my Vmax we met a group of young punks in their mustangs coming out of one of the hairpin turns as one of them decided to show off and spun out onto the shoulder throwing rocks and gravel all in the road. Fortunately for the bike riders that followed not far behind them were spotters along the road to warn them of the "NEW" existing dangers ahead of them. With the concerns from the spotters and their help with a few brooms the roadway was cleared quickly. So you can call them chicken strips if you wish, but I like to refer to them as good common sense. Thanks, Qwick
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zerMATT
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posted March 01, 2007 08:23 PM
 Edited By: zerMATT on 1 Mar 2007 20:24
Yup, I was on the dragon in September too, and anyone who tries to rid their tire of chicken strips on that particular road would be a complete idiot anyway. There's a time and a place, and no, it doesn't need to be on a "closed course" to have fun and put a little lean on a '14.
Have you been on the "net" so briefly that you didn't have a clue that posting a close-up of a rear tire with strips that wide might bring a comment or two? I can't believe I'm the first... I guess everyone else is being nice for the month of February.
Don't take it personally, there's plenty of 14's out there with the same problem. After all, this is a "drag" bike, not a cornering machine (according to many).
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QWICK
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posted March 01, 2007 08:53 PM
zerMATT, come on, it's not that bad is it? I've scratched them up near a 1/2" from the edges, lol. Not too bad for an old Vmax guy who's getting use to his new rocket. But seriously though, I do admire you guys who can & will lay'em in the curves. And IC is one of those guys... Damn impressive!!! You know the old saying... If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch. So, in the case of riding the curves, I'm just a pup on the porch.
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schooligan
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posted March 03, 2007 05:52 PM
I don't own a zx-14. I do, however, know genuine ability when I see it. QWick and I ride together every now and then... even before his days of 14ism. When he told me he was getting one I was one of the most jealous guys around. Then he told me he was going to cut, shorten, tweak, and hack on his factory exhaust because he had an idea for some pipes that he thought would look and sound good. I thought....he's gone mad. Shell out that kind of money for the awsomest bike ever and then not just pay to get a exhaust that will compliment it?? Yep, he's nuts. But, after many trials, weeks of manpower and"what do ya thinks" he has done it. They sound great and did add power to the bike. Very little girgle, which with the right map will be silenced. I have followed this thread since he started it. Just thought I would add my two cents worth now. OH YEAH, he does take it easy in the curves, but he can hang with us "little" carvers up in the hills just fine.
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MATTZ14
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posted March 07, 2007 10:28 AM
QUICK, Those are sick! I have the same problem with my daughter. After seeing all the great pics and the write-up by IC, I gota try me a set. Could you email me all the info you can on how to make a set. I would pay you to make a set, but it sounds like you don't want to do that. Sweet job.
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zerMATT
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posted March 07, 2007 06:02 PM
Edited By: zerMATT on 7 Mar 2007 18:04
No.... I guess it's not that bad, there are quite a few guys here who have done some carving with the '14, but it's definitely not the best tool for that job. On the other hand, I'm a big guy and I'd look a lot like the proverbial "monkey fucking a football" if I tried to hump a little 600 thingy through the twisties.
The '14 does have some great cornering abilities compared with other big bikes in it's class (busa, xx, etc), and you'll get a *lot* more confidence as you get used to it compared to your V-Max. It's a SOLID bike with a great suspension for it's weight and motor size. Tight twisties like the dragon aren't much fun, but it really excels in high-speed sweepers where you can keep the speeds above 100-110. I'm fortunate that we have a good group of roads like that where I am here in Texas, and even more of them in Arkansas where I try to ride a few times a year.
Sorry for the hi-jack... I'll get back on topic....
I need to comment on the photo posted earlier that shows a red line drawn between the tire edge, exhaust pipe, and foot peg. That line means nothing when you compress the suspension with rider weight, then add some G-forces of cornering pressure. If you moved that line up *at least* two inches on the lower end, you'd get a clear picture of how the exhaust pipe would be on the ground way before the peg ever touches.
This picture shows it a bit, but I think you'll find that the suspension compresses even more than this in a hard, high-speed turn:
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QWICK
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posted March 07, 2007 07:28 PM
Mattz14, I sent you a few more pics to your e-mail address, hope they help. Maybe we can talk by phone this weekend so that I can answer all your questions. Thanks
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QWICK
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posted March 07, 2007 08:02 PM
zerMATT, IC is putting together a set of his own pipes that will be much like mine but with a slightly different set of tips that will tuck up under and closer to the bike to keep from scraping. And I've watched IC lay his 14 in a curve so I can attest to his ability to ride hard and very well in the twisties. So keep an eye on his results cause he is the one that will truly put this exhaust idea and design to the extreme test in the curves. Until then, I'll be watching from the porch and enjoying the hell out of the straight line fun of my 14.
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countersteer
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posted March 07, 2007 08:17 PM
the 14 handles corners surprisingly well, better than most riders can exploit.
cosmetics, to me, are not worth sacrificing performance and ability. i do applaud your efforts though.
if your exhaust idea were a full system, im wondering how it would stack up compared with a traditional styled pipe in regards to performance.
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QWICK
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posted March 07, 2007 08:49 PM
Thanks CS
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BlackMagic14
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posted March 07, 2007 11:35 PM
quote:
No.... I guess it's not that bad, there are quite a few guys here who have done some carving with the '14, but it's definitely not the best tool for that job. On the other hand, I'm a big guy and I'd look a lot like the proverbial "monkey fucking a football" if I tried to hump a little 600 thingy through the twisties.
The '14 does have some great cornering abilities compared with other big bikes in it's class (busa, xx, etc), and you'll get a *lot* more confidence as you get used to it compared to your V-Max. It's a SOLID bike with a great suspension for it's weight and motor size. Tight twisties like the dragon aren't much fun, but it really excels in high-speed sweepers where you can keep the speeds above 100-110. I'm fortunate that we have a good group of roads like that where I am here in Texas, and even more of them in Arkansas where I try to ride a few times a year.
Sorry for the hi-jack... I'll get back on topic....
I need to comment on the photo posted earlier that shows a red line drawn between the tire edge, exhaust pipe, and foot peg. That line means nothing when you compress the suspension with rider weight, then add some G-forces of cornering pressure. If you moved that line up *at least* two inches on the lower end, you'd get a clear picture of how the exhaust pipe would be on the ground way before the peg ever touches.
This picture shows it a bit, but I think you'll find that the suspension compresses even more than this in a hard, high-speed turn:
I live in Arkansas and I agree I would go as far as to say that Arkansas ranks in the top 3 best states in the country to ride in... For several reasons, obviously the amazing diversity of types of roads (I would compare the Arkansas Gap Hwy 341 to deals Gap any day of the week) second the solitude of said roads not a lot of houses or other vehicles and especially cops, thirdly Arkansas is one of the last truelly relaxed states when it comes to Vehicle Inspection I can litterally if i choose to, ride around without the baffle in my SMEG and get NO HASSLES (not that i do IT IS ONE HELLUVA HEADACHE AFTERWARDS) but for those of you that have never rode in Arkansas I highly recommend it, there is about a 50 mile stretch of Hwy 341 hat in my opinion is probably the GREATEST twisty road in America there are parts that are very similar to the dragon and then there are stretches with the LONG FAST SWEEPERS and other sections with the quick dips and switchbacks, then there is my Personal favorite which is a stretch of Highway 7 between Hot Springs and a little town called Ola which is utterly amazing the curves the mountain views the quality of the road surface and maintenance of the road is truly amazing... And to close this little piece of Arkansas propaganda I like to use this similie when speaking of the 14 and bangin curves "It is like cutting steak with a butter knife, you can do it but it is a lot of work" I much prefer my 05 ZX10 for that duty... And by the way I am 300 pounds and I think I could keep up with damn near anyone on the twisties on my 10 but I will for sure be in a lot more pain afterwards than other people LOL
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