the blue mule
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posted January 08, 2007 02:36 PM
Would anyone be so kind as to post a pic or 2 on how setup the suspension for the
drags!!! I weigh 190,maybe 200 suited. And learning how to set the compression and damping might help me pick up a tenth or 2. The spring is still set on the factory setting. The bike is lowered just like brocks setup. But I'm needing some direction as to which way would be the best for someone my weight, a good starting point if you will.
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posted January 08, 2007 03:15 PM
www.race-tech.com ask for Paul Thede, He is a suspension guru.
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posted January 08, 2007 04:42 PM
When you release the clutch you want the bike to squat and stay there. For the rear shock set the compression soft and the rebound hard. Relaxing the preload on the spring will help lower the bike. As long as the rear tire doesn't hit the inner fender you should be OK. Generally that should help the launch also. Front fork: you want as little movement as possible so compress them as much as you can with the strap (no spring preload) and set the rebound full stiff. Get out there and practice. Good Luck.
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The Blue MUle
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posted January 08, 2007 07:21 PM
 Edited By: The Blue MUle on 8 Jan 2007 19:22
Well I'll be more specific, which screws do what and which way do you turn them to get the desired effect.Or where can I find the info to see for myself?
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posted January 08, 2007 07:54 PM
owners manuel
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Nelson Taylor
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posted January 08, 2007 08:53 PM
I'll try and gets some pics to you.
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The Blue Mule
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posted January 09, 2007 05:57 AM
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I'll try and gets some pics to you.
Check your PM
Thank you Mr. Taylor, for the record I didn't get a manual when I picked it up
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posted January 09, 2007 06:04 AM
Opps, sorry. I ended up buying the service manuel
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burnout
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posted January 09, 2007 06:20 AM
Are you rubbing now when you launch?
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posted January 09, 2007 01:00 PM
I burned a hole the size of my fist into the undertail. I'm 235 suited and had to adjust the spring preload all the way to try and get it to stop...it never did.
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posted January 09, 2007 03:46 PM
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I burned a hole the size of my fist into the undertail. I'm 235 suited and had to adjust the spring preload all the way to try and get it to stop...it never did.
Mine rubs too but has not yet made a hole ..... But i'm only 150 pounds ... 
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The Blue Mule
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posted January 09, 2007 06:58 PM
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Are you rubbing now when you launch?
No, should I be??? I don't think the underside has even gotten close
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posted January 09, 2007 07:35 PM
, The ZX-14 has a soft rear shock, My rider is 170 with gear on, and it rubs with the shock being revalved. I am learning there ar alot of variables to suspension and Chassis set up. To the point where we have one of the suspension greats coming to watch the bike this weekend, to figure out whats best
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posted January 10, 2007 11:06 AM
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I burned a hole the size of my fist into the undertail. I'm 235 suited and had to adjust the spring preload all the way to try and get it to stop...it never did.
Preload does not increase spring compression rate. I also made this mistake to no avail.
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posted January 10, 2007 11:18 AM
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Are you rubbing now when you launch?
No, should I be??? I don't think the underside has even gotten close
No, you shouldn't rub or you will ruin your undertail. The reason that I ask is to understand which way you should adjust. Given that you are not rubbing you can lower your bike more or you can reduce your compression damping to get the maximum rear drop on launch. I'm 195 and I have the compression damping set as high as it will go and I rub when I launch because I'm extended +5. Smokin only weighs 150 and he rubs because he leaves like a beast. As you leave harder and harder your tail will drop more and more. Keep increasing your compression damping to keep from rubbing. Pretty soon you will have maxed it out and you will need to increase your spring rate, re-valve, or buy a better shock. I've read elsewhere that a stronger spring from Hypercoils ($100) is a good substitute for a $700-$1000 shock, but it doesn't sound like you are in need of a higher spring rate yet.
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posted January 10, 2007 12:12 PM
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Well I'll be more specific, which screws do what and which way do you turn them to get the desired effect.Or where can I find the info to see for myself?
Check this tutorial out. i found it helpful
http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1952
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The Blue MUle
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posted January 11, 2007 06:48 AM
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Well I'll be more specific, which screws do what and which way do you turn them to get the desired effect.Or where can I find the info to see for myself?
Check this tutorial out. i found it helpful
http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1952
That's a great post and thank you but I have some questions about it. When they guy says He's setting it stock(that's obvious to me) and magazine?? Does that mean he's setting it for sport riding on the street?? Or are those settings for drag racing? I appreciate your time.
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posted January 11, 2007 01:21 PM
The bikes that rub are stock wheelbase, I don't think the stretched ones are rubbing.
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posted January 11, 2007 01:27 PM
cranking the spring will help alittle, but not like what you want. It's not a replaceing the spring though. I'm 7 out and fat so i'm going to rub no matter what i do. Going to make a stubber to go on the shock shaft to work as a bump stop. You can pick up the poly end bar links at autozone for like 10 bucks...drill the hole out larger and slide them over the shock shaft, you can also stack them.
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posted January 11, 2007 02:06 PM
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The bikes that rub are stock wheelbase, I don't think the stretched ones are rubbing.
I'm stock wheelbased and slammed all the way around and dont rub.
Blue Mule,
If your bike is sitting as it is in your signature pic you shouldn't have to worry about rubbing, you dont weight that much and your not slammed. I would first try playing with the compression and dampening adjustments on the shock. You might also want to try lowering the link to the 3rd hole, to see if your chassis works better, and see if the tails rubs. I
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The Blue MUle
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posted January 11, 2007 03:17 PM
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The bikes that rub are stock wheelbase, I don't think the stretched ones are rubbing.
I'm stock wheelbased and slammed all the way around and dont rub.
Blue Mule,
If your bike is sitting as it is in your signature pic you shouldn't have to worry about rubbing, you dont weight that much and your not slammed. I would first try playing with the compression and dampening adjustments on the shock. You might also want to try lowering the link to the 3rd hole, to see if your chassis works better, and see if the tails rubs. I
You don't think that it will set the bike up to high in the front??? I do have to get this thing over the driveway hump too,lol.
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