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posted November 06, 2006 06:49 PM
 Edited By: Nelson Taylor on 6 Nov 2006 19:28
Anyone Remember This???
Does anyone remember when Kaw released the ZX14 in Las Vegas.
And Ryan ran a 9.17 with a Muzzy setup. This was back in March/April i believe
That same bike should be able to go 8's if in the right region, and this time of year.
Seems to me Ryan would be well in the 8.9's if he were in Gainsville this past weekend
I wonder if Ryan and Rob M. did as much tuning on there's as Brock has done on his?
Understand this is not to bash muzzy or take away from Brock.
I was really impressed with the 9.17 in the State of Nevada especially so early in the year.
   
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posted November 06, 2006 06:52 PM
It would be nice to see Rob put ryan on a 14 with muzzy exhaust and some tuning and see how they run.
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posted November 06, 2006 07:06 PM
I wonder if Ryan and Rob M. did as much tuning on there's as Brock has done on his?
I will see them this weekend at Pamona Ca. I have a pretty good buddy that works with the Trim-Tex team. So i will ask 
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posted November 06, 2006 07:22 PM
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Does anyone remember when Kaw released the ZX14 in Las Vegas.
And Ryan ran a 9.17 with a Muzzy setup. This was back in March/April i believe
That same bike should be able to go 8's if in the right region, and this time of year.
Seems to me Ryan would be well in the 8.9's if he were in Gainsville this past weekend
I wonder if Ryan and Rob M. did as much tuning on there's as Brock has done on his?
i know the only thing you can get from MUZZY'S is that sorry ass generic map for his pipe... 1st and last time i buy shit from Rob Muzzy
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posted November 06, 2006 08:29 PM
heh at least you were able to buy one! fortunately for me when I tried I couldn't.... 
the (veryt) fortunate part for me is I ended up with a BROCK'S!
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posted November 07, 2006 02:24 PM
so what you guys are saying is that muzzy does not do a good job of supporting his product?
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posted November 07, 2006 05:14 PM
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so what you guys are saying is that muzzy does not do a good job of supporting his product?
LIKE THE MAN BELOW ME SAYS... Get a Brocks..... SCREW MUZZY.... since intro ...nothing.... not 1 freaking improvement.... Brock's what about 10 updates
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posted November 07, 2006 06:07 PM
I've never dealt with Brock or Muzzy so I have nothing bad to say about there products and/or support.
My point was that Ryans 9.17 was just shy of an 8sec pass back in the early release of these bikes with limited time to tune. Since then other great riders have been 9.09 and 9.04. I would think that Ryan would be able to get that Muzzy bike in the 8's by now. I'm sure with his schedule he hasn't had much time to mess with the bike. And getting into the 8sec zone on motor/stock wheel base probably isnt even of importance to him or Rob M.
Myself and I'm sure others are waiting and wondering who, when, where and even if it can even be done. Guess I'll have to just continue rooting for Smokin, and Brock to get it done.
Just as the ZX9R was the first production bike to go 9sec on stock motor/stock wheelbase it would great to have the 14 be the first one to go 8sec with stock motor and stock w/b.
I must be a Kawasaki fan.
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posted November 07, 2006 06:17 PM
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so what you guys are saying is that muzzy does not do a good job of supporting his product?
LIKE THE MAN BELOW ME SAYS... Get a Brocks..... SCREW MUZZY.... since intro ...nothing.... not 1 freaking improvement.... Brock's what about 10 updates
very rude of you badzx12- you could have at least phrased that like an intelligent human being. although i do not know Rob Muzzy personally, he is obviously a respectable man and a pillar in the motorcycle aftermarket industry. i have spent many thousands of dollars on products that his company offers- i have just about every zx-12 part available along with two of his exhaust systems for my zx-12. everyone is entitled to their opinion but your blatant disrespect got under my skin. he also supports this website, which allows people like you to post absurd rambling comments- probably only trolling for attention.
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posted November 07, 2006 06:38 PM
I'm sorry 1bad, but though I went with Brock and love his products, I have purchased from Muzzy in the past and haven't had any real issues with them. They have had some issues here with some members of the site, but have resolved them. I'm with CS on this one; there's no call for your blatant disrespect towards them...they've done nothing to deserve that. He is and always has been a strong supporter of this site from what I now know and just because Brock spends more resources and time refining his products for that extra power and performance, doesn't mean Muzzy has to be treated disrespectfully. We all know how nasty I can be here, but this is uncalled for, really. Be nice and say you're sorry... 
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posted November 07, 2006 06:49 PM
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i know the only thing you can get from MUZZY'S is that sorry ass generic map for his pipe... 1st and last time i buy shit from Rob Muzzy
badzx12: if you take motorcycling seriously at all then you would gladly spend a few dollars to have your ride custom tuned. muzzys offers good and clean baseline map for his products, which im sure get tweaked often enough. have you ever called and actually inquired about the different maps muzzys has? brock seems to have more time to spend on maps while Rob Muzzy is developing turbo systems and other goodies.
furthermore, your zx-12 is not "bad". MY zx-12 IS badass, but only because i use a LOT of muzzys products on it!
it should be noted that i will not be going with a muzzys or brocks for my zx-14. that is my story and im sticking to it.
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posted November 07, 2006 06:55 PM
Hey CS..."Chrome won't get ya home"
Just fuckin' with ya 
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posted November 08, 2006 12:12 PM
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i know the only thing you can get from MUZZY'S is that sorry ass generic map for his pipe... 1st and last time i buy shit from Rob Muzzy
badzx12: if you take motorcycling seriously at all then you would gladly spend a few dollars to have your ride custom tuned. muzzys offers good and clean baseline map for his products, which im sure get tweaked often enough. have you ever called and actually inquired about the different maps muzzys has? brock seems to have more time to spend on maps while Rob Muzzy is developing turbo systems and other goodies.
furthermore, your zx-12 is not "bad". MY zx-12 IS badass, but only because i use a LOT of muzzys products on it!
it should be noted that i will not be going with a muzzys or brocks for my zx-14. that is my story and im sticking to it.
yes i called and email ... all i got is the same map....so muzzy has no r&d... so he has no performance then...... as far as custom dyno tuning... i don't think a few hours on a dyno and click auto tune ....tunes a bike... tuning is a long haul project to get right...like what brocks doing....just my story and i'm sticking to it....ps...cs..to bad our zx12's never meet i'm in texas come get me if you can
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posted November 11, 2006 09:31 PM
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posted November 12, 2006 02:41 AM
Edited By: TurboBlew on 12 Nov 2006 02:42
That Zx9 didnt make an "actual" 9 second pass. It was a corrected time. Corrected a full second from what I remember. Magazine riders are far less skilled than the lowest qualifying pro dragracer.
Ryan Schnitz owned a later model ZX9 with a pipe, jetting, and other minor tweaks and I believe he could peel off a 9.80 pass at stock wheelbase. This is a modified ZX9...not a stocker.
So if Ryan is 2-5/10ths quicker than most racers.... he's at least a full second faster than the mag fags... so you're 98 9second Zx9 is a total farce. Dont believe bullshit magazine claims. That year ZX9 is a 10.80 bike at best. Maybe a low 10sec et with a 120lb jockey on it.
Why dont you try riding your own bike and putting down your own times so when you "bench race" you'll sound alot more credible than nutswinging from Ryan or quoting some made up et for a magazine cover...lol.
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Just as the ZX9R was the first production bike to go 9sec on stock motor/stock wheelbase it would great to have the 14 be the first one to go 8sec with stock motor and stock w/b.
I must be a Kawasaki fan.
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posted November 12, 2006 06:43 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 12 Nov 2006 06:45
quote:
Does anyone remember when Kaw released the ZX14 in Las Vegas.
And Ryan ran a 9.17 with a Muzzy setup. This was back in March/April i believe
That same bike should be able to go 8's if in the right region, and this time of year.
Seems to me Ryan would be well in the 8.9's if he were in Gainsville this past weekend
I wonder if Ryan and Rob M. did as much tuning on there's as Brock has done on his?
Understand this is not to bash muzzy or take away from Brock.
I was really impressed with the 9.17 in the State of Nevada especially so early in the year.
I'm pretty sure the bike Ryan rode that day was Gadsons street bike ..That bike has a Muzzy pipe and was 62 inches long ...So you can't compare the two bikes seeing that Brocks zx14 is stock wheel base .. I read some where that Gadsons street bike has run 8.80 or better since then ...I'm not talking the bike he races for Adams that has gone 8.0s...
Back to Mr Muzzy ..I think the man is very busy building turbos, airshifters, n20 kits, steering dampers,strokers, big bore kits and other goodies for the zx14...That doesn't leave a hole lot of time for him to spend countless hours on the Dyno making Maps for a pipe..
We have to thank Brock for the countless hours that he has spent on the dyno and track building us maps and testing the zx14 ...Not many people have or will take the time to do that...
Both Brock and Muzzy are making go fast goodies for the zx14 and both do it a little differently but in the end it's all good for us and the zx14 .. Smokin...
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posted November 12, 2006 08:21 AM
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posted November 12, 2006 08:49 AM
The ZX-14 that Ryan rode at Las Vegas was one of the bikes that Kawasaki brought for the press intro. When we arrived we installed a MUZZY SS/SS full system, MUZZY lowering links, and a Schnitz tie down strap on the front. One of the Magazine guy's (Kevin Duke) made a couple of passes on the bike that were very impressive also.
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posted November 12, 2006 09:24 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 12 Nov 2006 09:28
turboblew:
If I recall correctly (as I "was there") .. the times were NOT corrected.
bad:
dude... you're talking out of your ass ... "since intro ...nothing.... not 1 freaking improvement.... Brock's what about 10 updates" ...
what's all these parts on their website then?
http://www.muzzys.com/ZX14/zx14products.html
so what if Muzzys only supplies a baseline map? Who cares?
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posted November 12, 2006 09:51 AM
Well not all of us have the privlege to have a good tuner around us, so I for one care about the map I get with my exhaust and that's the reason I went with Brock. I would have to drive over 200 miles one way and pay about 300.00 for a custom map. Brocks map works excellent on my bike. I know how much et I picked up on my Busa going from a muzzy exhaust to a brock and it was huge. I still love the sound and look of the Muzzy exhaust and it's a good pipe for the money. And turboblew my buddy had a zx-9 that went 10.32 bonestock and he is 210 lbs. Granted he is a very good rider, but they where faster then 10.80's
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posted November 12, 2006 10:44 AM
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turboblew:
If I recall correctly (as I "was there") .. the times were NOT corrected.
bad:
dude... you're talking out of your ass ... "since intro ...nothing.... not 1 freaking improvement.... Brock's what about 10 updates" ...
what's all these parts on their website then?
http://www.muzzys.com/ZX14/zx14products.html
so what if Muzzys only supplies a baseline map? Who cares?
dude
Dude i'm talking about improvements to the pipes they sell as in maps... Surely theres r&d going on at muzzy's... Other wise there wouldn't be all the other stuff... Fish there isn't even a dyno shop that worth a shit in Texas for sportbikes....
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posted November 12, 2006 11:33 AM
What you need to understand is that Brock runs a smaller operation and tuning center. Muzzys runs a pretty large company and manufacturing facility for lots of different products, makes and models...
it's like complaining that Volvo doesn't have a tuning facility but your local tuner does.
Apples and oranges.
I think both Brock and Muzzy do an awesome job, and that they serve the riding community and the different parts of it the best they can.
I hope this makes sense to you.
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posted November 12, 2006 11:41 AM
Makes sense to me and I agree Fish
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posted November 12, 2006 11:43 AM
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posted November 12, 2006 11:52 AM
I understand the point you making ...... But Volvo ,Ford ,Chevy, sell cars as is....Aftermarket sell proformance parts for the cars and support period.... If thats the case of apples to oranges... Then if muzzy's or any aftermarket manufacturer... Should take there support links off their websites if they are not offering any.... I bought a pc3 and the people i bought it from supports me with maps ..... If i bought a 50 shot of nos kit from muzzy....There be nothing but a base map for it???????..... Like i said maping dyno's are few and far between in Texas... And when you find one...This is what they say... Drive over here 100+ miles leave bike 2 or 3 days then pick up...So theres 400+ miles just dropping it off and picking it up to closes dyno...which might not be best dyno... all this to gain a few hp over a good base map ....
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